Jan 2, 2016, 4:39 pm
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ARCHIVE: 2016 Flight [xx] Cancellation / Delay / Diversion etc. on [date] (consolidated)
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ARCHIVE: 2016 Flight [xx] Cancellation / Delay / Diversion etc. (consolidated)
Jun 2, 2016, 10:08 am
#76
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Thinking more on this issue, AA should NOT be delaying ANY flights (whether fully booked or nearly empty).
[For the Thanksgiving period of 2015, AA cancelled most of their (AA metal) flts to EUROPE--while annoying, they did it a few weeks in advance.]
Weather they have NO control over, mechanical (better maintenance(?)) should be the exceptions.
[For the Thanksgiving period of 2015, AA cancelled most of their (AA metal) flts to EUROPE--while annoying, they did it a few weeks in advance.]
Weather they have NO control over, mechanical (better maintenance(?)) should be the exceptions.
Mechanical delays are going to happen, sure the airline should work to minimize them, but to say never is unrealistic. A world in which mechanical delays are considered completely unacceptable, is an operations culture in which safety is compromised.
And AA is hardly the only airline to have planned schedule reductions at periods of known low demand.
Jun 2, 2016, 3:29 pm
#77
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What in the world do you mean? Are you saying that there never should be a delay due to maintainance?
Mechanical delays are going to happen, sure the airline should work to minimize them, but to say never is unrealistic. A world in which mechanical delays are considered completely unacceptable, is an operations culture in which safety is compromised.
And AA is hardly the only airline to have planned schedule reductions at periods of known low demand.
Mechanical delays are going to happen, sure the airline should work to minimize them, but to say never is unrealistic. A world in which mechanical delays are considered completely unacceptable, is an operations culture in which safety is compromised.
And AA is hardly the only airline to have planned schedule reductions at periods of known low demand.
Weather and mechanical are in general out of AA's control. But in some instances mechanicals can be avoided with better care.
The pilots were holding a "job action" a few years ago. As just one illustration: my flight was delayed for a fire extinguisher issue, (the pilot probably would have found something else!) but the FE problem probably should have been noticed before we got to the take-off runway in DFW, only to return to the gate.
Jun 2, 2016, 4:27 pm
#78
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Gate availability at O'hare
DCA to ORD AA324, 90 min delay upon arrival waiting for gate - is this typical of AA into ORD - usually in UAL which of course has more gates.
Jun 2, 2016, 8:09 pm
#80
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Jun 2, 2016, 10:34 pm
#81
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[In some countries when a currency gets "devaluated", two parallel currencies exist; like France, I.e., there was a time when they had OLD Francs (100 of these =) 1 NEW Franc.]
Jun 3, 2016, 8:11 am
#82
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Potential delay - what would you do?
I received a notification late yesterday that DFW is under an advisory due to potential severe weather June 1-4, with a waiver for flight changes.
I'm flying PIT-DFW-LAX-SYD tomorrow with my family, arriving in DFW at 4:45 and departing at 6, leaving 3.5 hrs at LAX. There are 2 later DFW-LAX flights scheduled that would get me there on time. Weather shows "chance of T-storms", but only 25-35% through the afternoon and <45% chance all day.
The alternative I can see is through ORD, arriving at 3:30 and departing at 5, with one later flight. Unfortunately, ORD forecast shows "chance of T-storms", with a 50-80% change from 2p-7p, right in that flight window.
I looked at DFW flights last night, and it seemed 1/2 on the board were cancelled and another 30% with 2+ hour delays.
Any sage advice, local wisdom, etc., on which is a better option (of 2 airports notoriously bad for dealing with weather and congestion)?
I'm assuming I only get one chance to make a switch.
I'm flying PIT-DFW-LAX-SYD tomorrow with my family, arriving in DFW at 4:45 and departing at 6, leaving 3.5 hrs at LAX. There are 2 later DFW-LAX flights scheduled that would get me there on time. Weather shows "chance of T-storms", but only 25-35% through the afternoon and <45% chance all day.
The alternative I can see is through ORD, arriving at 3:30 and departing at 5, with one later flight. Unfortunately, ORD forecast shows "chance of T-storms", with a 50-80% change from 2p-7p, right in that flight window.
I looked at DFW flights last night, and it seemed 1/2 on the board were cancelled and another 30% with 2+ hour delays.
Any sage advice, local wisdom, etc., on which is a better option (of 2 airports notoriously bad for dealing with weather and congestion)?
I'm assuming I only get one chance to make a switch.
Jun 3, 2016, 8:14 am
#83
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If I WOULD have gotten 5000 RDM before the "devaluation" [under the same circumstances], NOW I should get more (to factor in the devaluation).
[In some countries when a currency gets "devaluated", two parallel currencies exist; like France, I.e., there was a time when they had OLD Francs (100 of these =) 1 NEW Franc.]
[In some countries when a currency gets "devaluated", two parallel currencies exist; like France, I.e., there was a time when they had OLD Francs (100 of these =) 1 NEW Franc.]
Jun 3, 2016, 8:15 am
#84
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Maybe try for PIT-DFW-SYD or PIT-LAX-SYD? Remove the multi stops especially if you're worried about weather.
Otherwise you have plenty of options (with 1 really good option):
PIT-JFK-LAX-SYD (I would try for this one)
PIT-CLT-LAX-SYD
PIT-PHL-LAX-SYD
PIT-ORD-LAX-SYD
PIT-DCA-LAX-SYD
Otherwise you have plenty of options (with 1 really good option):
PIT-JFK-LAX-SYD (I would try for this one)
PIT-CLT-LAX-SYD
PIT-PHL-LAX-SYD
PIT-ORD-LAX-SYD
PIT-DCA-LAX-SYD
Jun 3, 2016, 8:17 am
#85
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I received a notification late yesterday that DFW is under an advisory due to potential severe weather June 1-4, with a waiver for flight changes.
I'm flying PIT-DFW-LAX-SYD tomorrow with my family, arriving in DFW at 4:45 and departing at 6, leaving 3.5 hrs at LAX. There are 2 later DFW-LAX flights scheduled that would get me there on time. Weather shows "chance of T-storms", but only 25-35% through the afternoon and <45% chance all day.
The alternative I can see is through ORD, arriving at 3:30 and departing at 5, with one later flight. Unfortunately, ORD forecast shows "chance of T-storms", with a 50-80% change from 2p-7p, right in that flight window.
I looked at DFW flights last night, and it seemed 1/2 on the board were cancelled and another 30% with 2+ hour delays.
Any sage advice, local wisdom, etc., on which is a better option (of 2 airports notoriously bad for dealing with weather and congestion)?
I'm assuming I only get one chance to make a switch.
I'm flying PIT-DFW-LAX-SYD tomorrow with my family, arriving in DFW at 4:45 and departing at 6, leaving 3.5 hrs at LAX. There are 2 later DFW-LAX flights scheduled that would get me there on time. Weather shows "chance of T-storms", but only 25-35% through the afternoon and <45% chance all day.
The alternative I can see is through ORD, arriving at 3:30 and departing at 5, with one later flight. Unfortunately, ORD forecast shows "chance of T-storms", with a 50-80% change from 2p-7p, right in that flight window.
I looked at DFW flights last night, and it seemed 1/2 on the board were cancelled and another 30% with 2+ hour delays.
Any sage advice, local wisdom, etc., on which is a better option (of 2 airports notoriously bad for dealing with weather and congestion)?
I'm assuming I only get one chance to make a switch.
Jun 3, 2016, 8:17 am
#86
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I received a notification late yesterday that DFW is under an advisory due to potential severe weather June 1-4, with a waiver for flight changes.
I'm flying PIT-DFW-LAX-SYD tomorrow with my family, arriving in DFW at 4:45 and departing at 6, leaving 3.5 hrs at LAX. There are 2 later DFW-LAX flights scheduled that would get me there on time. Weather shows "chance of T-storms", but only 25-35% through the afternoon and <45% chance all day.
The alternative I can see is through ORD, arriving at 3:30 and departing at 5, with one later flight. Unfortunately, ORD forecast shows "chance of T-storms", with a 50-80% change from 2p-7p, right in that flight window.
I looked at DFW flights last night, and it seemed 1/2 on the board were cancelled and another 30% with 2+ hour delays.
Any sage advice, local wisdom, etc., on which is a better option (of 2 airports notoriously bad for dealing with weather and congestion)?
I'm assuming I only get one chance to make a switch.
I'm flying PIT-DFW-LAX-SYD tomorrow with my family, arriving in DFW at 4:45 and departing at 6, leaving 3.5 hrs at LAX. There are 2 later DFW-LAX flights scheduled that would get me there on time. Weather shows "chance of T-storms", but only 25-35% through the afternoon and <45% chance all day.
The alternative I can see is through ORD, arriving at 3:30 and departing at 5, with one later flight. Unfortunately, ORD forecast shows "chance of T-storms", with a 50-80% change from 2p-7p, right in that flight window.
I looked at DFW flights last night, and it seemed 1/2 on the board were cancelled and another 30% with 2+ hour delays.
Any sage advice, local wisdom, etc., on which is a better option (of 2 airports notoriously bad for dealing with weather and congestion)?
I'm assuming I only get one chance to make a switch.
Jun 3, 2016, 1:24 pm
#87
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I'm scheduled to be in DFW by 4:45p, so plenty of slack for delays to get on the Qantas flight. If I head to DFW and run into issues, would AA re-route us on Qantas direct, on an AA award (forgot to mention that up front - 4 sAAver awards)
JFK, PHL don't have seats. CLT, DCA are the other 1-stop options, but extra flying and non-MCE planes on some (though getting to LAX on time is more important).
There's also DFW-SAN-LAX and DFW-ABQ-LAX if things get desperate. So that provides lots of DFW options - 2 direct, 2 connect to LAX, plus Qantas direct to SYD. I'll keep my eye on how the forecast is looking in the morning.
Thanks for ideas and food for thought.
JFK, PHL don't have seats. CLT, DCA are the other 1-stop options, but extra flying and non-MCE planes on some (though getting to LAX on time is more important).
There's also DFW-SAN-LAX and DFW-ABQ-LAX if things get desperate. So that provides lots of DFW options - 2 direct, 2 connect to LAX, plus Qantas direct to SYD. I'll keep my eye on how the forecast is looking in the morning.
Thanks for ideas and food for thought.
Jun 3, 2016, 2:48 pm
#88
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Had this happen to us on our ORD-DFW-AUH-MLE flights last month. Saw that there were severe weather alerts starting Thursday evening. Couldn't sleep at all and woke up at 4:30am Friday morning to an email from AA saying that there was the possibility of travel disruptions. Hopped on EF and EY's website and was able to see that JFK-AUH was available for F Awards so we just had to get from ORD to JFK. AAgent was able to route us ORD-BOS-JFK in Y then confirmed us in F on EY's JFK-AUH flight. There was no F availability (all flights were F0A0) but there was Y availability (but not T) so they just "forced us" onto the BOS and JFK flights. Good thing they did because our original ORD-DFW flight wound up being 4.5 hours late and the DFW-AUH flight was 3 hours late. If we would have had to connect out of DFW to get to a gateway to then connect to our EY flight, we would have been royally screwed.
Looks like there is availability in Y on AA3668/111 (PIT-ORD-LAX) tomorrow that will get you into LAX in time for the LAX-SYD flight and has some open seats in MCE. Don't assume that they will put you on the QF DFW-SYD flight if you miss your DFW-LAX connection.
Looks like there is availability in Y on AA3668/111 (PIT-ORD-LAX) tomorrow that will get you into LAX in time for the LAX-SYD flight and has some open seats in MCE. Don't assume that they will put you on the QF DFW-SYD flight if you miss your DFW-LAX connection.
Jun 3, 2016, 3:37 pm
#89
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Apparently a JFK-PHX flight today was met by law enforcement because a man stripped down naked and was running up and down the aisle of the plane. Who says AA doesn't offer free IFE entertainment for all?
Jun 3, 2016, 9:48 pm
#90
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Missed this
ORD forecast is getting worse, DFW is looking same/better. With more options from there, I'm going to keep DFW at least until I get to the airport tomorrow.
You can change your trip online if it was booked on aa.com or with American Reservations and you're traveling within the U.S., Puerto Rico or U.S. Virgin Islands.