inventory tampering ?
 

//Clarified : This is a hypothetical question that has arisen from a real world experience. If the premise is taken at face value, would one run afoul of the rules. (One entry in the thread clarified it for me, get a ruling from AA first). I've never pondered it before as I have never before seen U without C space until now)//

Is this considered inventory tampering ? As EXP You have purchased an international y. You apply SWU and wait list. Subsequently AA opens up saver business (u) but not SWU upgrade space (C). You take the U seat with your miles inviting a friend to go. The friend can't go and you refund the U space much closer to the travel date.

In my opinion, if you make a habit of this (i.e. more than once) I'm sure AA will see it in a negative light.

Ultimately, the only opinion that matters is that of AA.

How do you know the U seat released will be the one that clears your C waitlist?

inventory tampering ?
 

i have no idea. Butt if it happened it would put inventory back in business class for whatever purpose AA deemed appropriate.

I'd say THIS pretty much covers it. This ONE is even more specific.

Doubt it you'd get away with it more than once.

It all depends on what AA believes your intent was. People, of course, book and cancel tickets all the time. That is why people book refundable tickets.

But, at the time of the booking, you (or the person for whom you book) must have the intent to fly. And the judge of intent is solely AA.

Easy translation: don't attempt this more than once in a great long while. If you must do it again, I would call AA and specifically request the authorization discussed in the COC.

I'd closely read the section of the AA Conditions of Carriage entitled "Ticket validity: Compliance with terms and conditions of sale" here.

And be aware AA Corporate Security is very canny, reads here and has put some hurt on some FTers and others for playing with the CofC. Doing it once might slide by, but how much tolerance of risk do you have?

inventory tampering ?
 

my intent is pure. like many EXPs I grab award inventory all the time on chances I may use it (if its within say a 50% probability)

You post this I presume to CYA; your OP would be exhibit #1 to AA security.

I think your intent in the first post is perfectly clear. If you wouldn't want to be screwed out of getting an award seat by someone playing upgrade games then you shouldn't do the same.

inventory tampering ?
 

this isn't something I'm doing, just asking hypotheticals. I started thinking what if this really did happen, would it be a violation ?. while I think AA is screwing with upgrades by selling out EXPs with SWUs by offering general members saver awards, I wouldnt trust AA for one second as they would love to totally f over an EXPs by saying oh so sorry well just take those 13 SWUs and 800,000 miles. think how happy they would be to so easily rid of those obligations.

inventory tampering ?
 

No different than booking F seats on Full F fare and refunding right before departure so that your upgrade clears.

Based on your thread title, nonsense.

You know the answer but you just don't like it. AA would - and should crush you or any other EXP for this practice.

If you have a real friend who had planned to go, but had to cancel but had to cancel, how can it be tampering? If the booking was done with the intent of never using it, that would be a dishonest thing to do

Lol wut? You must think AA is screwing over its loyal EXPs by selling cash fares too. It should just keep empty planes on standby in case you happen to call.