Oct 1, 2015, 9:14 pm
Last edit by: Prospero
This thread is for the discussion of upgrades (using systemwide upgrades / SWUs or mileage+ copay) for the LAX-SYD-LAX route. This flight began with three class Boeing 777-300ER, but has changed to a two class Boeing 787-9.
Inaugural flights:
LAX-SYD: 17 Dec 2015 AA 73 Flight duration 15:05
Lv LAX 21:50 Dec 17 PST / 05:50 18 Dec GMT
Ar SYD 07:55 Dec 19 EADT / 20:55 18 Dec GMT (same day)
SYD-LAX: 19 Dec 2015 AA 72 Flight duration 13:50
Lv SYD 12:00 Dec 19 EADT / 01:00 19 Dec GMT
Ar LAX 06:50 Dec 19 PST / 14:50 19 Dec GMT
General discussion of the LAX-SYD-LAX route is at:
AA to operate LAX-SYD with 77W (inaugural 17 December 2015) archived
AA LAX-SYD-LAX 77W AA73 / AA72 (17 Dec 2015)
Was operated with Boeing 77W / 777-323ER to 8 Nov 2017
Changed to Boeing 787-9 in November 2017.
Inaugural flights:
LAX-SYD: 17 Dec 2015 AA 73 Flight duration 15:05
Lv LAX 21:50 Dec 17 PST / 05:50 18 Dec GMT
Ar SYD 07:55 Dec 19 EADT / 20:55 18 Dec GMT (same day)
SYD-LAX: 19 Dec 2015 AA 72 Flight duration 13:50
Lv SYD 12:00 Dec 19 EADT / 01:00 19 Dec GMT
Ar LAX 06:50 Dec 19 PST / 14:50 19 Dec GMT
General discussion of the LAX-SYD-LAX route is at:
AA to operate LAX-SYD with 77W (inaugural 17 December 2015) archived
AA LAX-SYD-LAX 77W AA73 / AA72 (17 Dec 2015)
Was operated with Boeing 77W / 777-323ER to 8 Nov 2017
Changed to Boeing 787-9 in November 2017.
LAX-SYD AA 73 / 72 Upgrade & Waitlist Discussion
Apr 8, 2016, 7:13 pm
#76
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Houston, TX/Australia
Programs: AA EXP/Exec Citi, NZ* G, Nat EE, Avis PP, HH Gold
Posts: 649
Well there are still 10 J seats open on the seatmap for tomorrow, and it's sitting at J7. I would guess that you have a pretty good chance. Unless you have an extremely busy day. Monday still have 30 J seats open on the seatmap, and is C0. So I think they are just keeping C inv pretty low until close to flight time.
You being PLT sure doesn't help, but I would guess that some EXPs already cleared, as MCE isn't that full and AA seems to be releasing inventory a bit at a time here 1-2 days before.
Please report back either way!
You being PLT sure doesn't help, but I would guess that some EXPs already cleared, as MCE isn't that full and AA seems to be releasing inventory a bit at a time here 1-2 days before.
Please report back either way!
Apr 8, 2016, 10:12 pm
#77
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: DL MM, Marriott LT Titanium, AA EXP, Avis Chairmans
Posts: 1,399
Well there are still 10 J seats open on the seatmap for tomorrow, and it's sitting at J7. I would guess that you have a pretty good chance. Unless you have an extremely busy day. Monday still have 30 J seats open on the seatmap, and is C0. So I think they are just keeping C inv pretty low until close to flight time.
You being PLT sure doesn't help, but I would guess that some EXPs already cleared, as MCE isn't that full and AA seems to be releasing inventory a bit at a time here 1-2 days before.
Please report back either way!
You being PLT sure doesn't help, but I would guess that some EXPs already cleared, as MCE isn't that full and AA seems to be releasing inventory a bit at a time here 1-2 days before.
Please report back either way!
By the time I landed in SYD, it was C0. So I'm glad I called in. For the LAX-SYD leg it was C7 from ~T-64 to almost boarding time.
Apr 20, 2016, 11:07 pm
#79
Join Date: May 2009
Location: California
Programs: AS 75K Gold, UA Silver, Marriott LT Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, National EE
Posts: 236
Cleared on a Friday (April 2016) SYD-LAX 36 hours prior from Economy to Business using a gifted SWU.
4/4 so far this year
4/4 so far this year
Cleared on a Sunday (Feb 2016) LAX-SYD 36 hours prior from Economy to Business using a gifted SWU.
Cleared on a Wednesday (March 2016) SYD-LAX 36 hours prior from Economy to Business using a gifted SWU.
Cleared on a Saturday LAX-SYD (April 2016) 23 days prior from Economy to Business using a gifted SWU.
AA J is the best business product to SYD at the moment until Virgin Australia starts their new service next month. Inflight WiFi service is still going to make AA J a winner. Better soft product on the SYD-LAX leg.
Cleared on a Wednesday (March 2016) SYD-LAX 36 hours prior from Economy to Business using a gifted SWU.
Cleared on a Saturday LAX-SYD (April 2016) 23 days prior from Economy to Business using a gifted SWU.
AA J is the best business product to SYD at the moment until Virgin Australia starts their new service next month. Inflight WiFi service is still going to make AA J a winner. Better soft product on the SYD-LAX leg.
Apr 21, 2016, 7:52 pm
#80
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: +61
Programs: SQ*PPS, QF-WP1 & LTG, VA-Gold, Marriott*LTT, Hilton*Gold, Accor*Platinum
Posts: 5,735
Does oneworld status factor in to SWU priority for a gifted SWU?
10 seats for an upcoming flight. I'm EXP, she's oneworld Emerald (but no status on AA, Alaska MVP).
Is she a pleb, or will rank higher? ; - )
Thanks
10 seats for an upcoming flight. I'm EXP, she's oneworld Emerald (but no status on AA, Alaska MVP).
Is she a pleb, or will rank higher? ; - )
Thanks
Apr 23, 2016, 5:40 am
#82
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
Apr 24, 2016, 11:06 am
#84
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
Apr 24, 2016, 5:07 pm
#85
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: AZ
Programs: AA Exec Plat; Marriott Plat; HHonors Diamond; Hertz PC
Posts: 213
Right now EF shows about 8 open seats still in J.
Of note, coach only has about 50 seats occupied. I think everyone will get their own row on this flight.
Apr 24, 2016, 11:09 pm
#86
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LA
Programs: AA, DL, UA
Posts: 543
There's only two codes VIP1 (if you are EXP) or VIP (non-EXPs, including those on the same PNR). So even if a traveling companion is Plat, as long as they are using gifted SWU's (or SWUs taken from the travel companion), they will be behind Golds that use mileage+copay (since they are UPG3 priority). Stupid policy I know but I learned it the hard way.
So the poster that got upgraded SYD-LAX using a gifted SWU must be very lucky -- the flight must not have had a long waitlist!
Apr 25, 2016, 8:15 am
#88
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
Unfortunately not even same PNR helps anymore for SWU's.
There's only two codes VIP1 (if you are EXP) or VIP (non-EXPs, including those on the same PNR). So even if a traveling companion is Plat, as long as they are using gifted SWU's (or SWUs taken from the travel companion), they will be behind Golds that use mileage+copay (since they are UPG3 priority). Stupid policy I know but I learned it the hard way.
So the poster that got upgraded SYD-LAX using a gifted SWU must be very lucky -- the flight must not have had a long waitlist!
There's only two codes VIP1 (if you are EXP) or VIP (non-EXPs, including those on the same PNR). So even if a traveling companion is Plat, as long as they are using gifted SWU's (or SWUs taken from the travel companion), they will be behind Golds that use mileage+copay (since they are UPG3 priority). Stupid policy I know but I learned it the hard way.
So the poster that got upgraded SYD-LAX using a gifted SWU must be very lucky -- the flight must not have had a long waitlist!
In effect the original EXP is inheriting the non status pax status for UG priority?
Apr 29, 2016, 11:35 pm
#89
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: +61
Programs: SQ*PPS, QF-WP1 & LTG, VA-Gold, Marriott*LTT, Hilton*Gold, Accor*Platinum
Posts: 5,735
11 seats available @ T-24
Mrs was upgraded with 2nd last seat, notified at gate (not ckin!) on a SWU.
The SYD handling for AA is quite poor - single line for Explat/Plat/Emerald/Gold/F/J, and then a single line for "All other". Or maybe I'm just spoiled flying QF / SQ / CX / EK.
Mrs was upgraded with 2nd last seat, notified at gate (not ckin!) on a SWU.
The SYD handling for AA is quite poor - single line for Explat/Plat/Emerald/Gold/F/J, and then a single line for "All other". Or maybe I'm just spoiled flying QF / SQ / CX / EK.
Apr 30, 2016, 4:33 am
#90
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Houston, TX/Australia
Programs: AA EXP/Exec Citi, NZ* G, Nat EE, Avis PP, HH Gold
Posts: 649
11 seats available @ T-24
Mrs was upgraded with 2nd last seat, notified at gate (not ckin!) on a SWU.
The SYD handling for AA is quite poor - single line for Explat/Plat/Emerald/Gold/F/J, and then a single line for "All other". Or maybe I'm just spoiled flying QF / SQ / CX / EK.
Mrs was upgraded with 2nd last seat, notified at gate (not ckin!) on a SWU.
The SYD handling for AA is quite poor - single line for Explat/Plat/Emerald/Gold/F/J, and then a single line for "All other". Or maybe I'm just spoiled flying QF / SQ / CX / EK.