REACTION DISCUSSION: Combined AA/US AAdvantage program announced Oct 2014 – opinions
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PLEASE NOTE: Please use this thread started for impressions, opinions, reactions, feelings, concerns, etc. Attacks on individuals or groups - members with differing opinions, pre-merger AA or US flyers, lifetime status holders, mileage runners, etc. WILL NOT BE TOLERATED;posts containing such will be subject to summary deletion (moderators may do so rather than merely redact inappropriate or disruptive content), and members posting such repeatedly may be subject to sanctions defined in the Rules / TOS.
This thread has been dedicated for "REACTION and DISCUSSION" in an attempt to raise the signal to noise ratio in the "JUST THE FACTS" parallel thread, allowing members to find germane information about the announced AAdvantage program (merged pre-merger AAdvantage, and Dividend Miles) program there. Thank you, the AA fora moderation team AAdvantage loyalty program in 2015 - LINK The AAdvantage program will continue to offer three elite status levels – AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum and Gold – and you’ll still have three ways to qualify with elite-qualifying miles, points and segments. On January 1, 2015, the segment qualification requirement for Executive Platinum will move to 120, and the current 100 segment threshold will continue until December 31, 2014. Three tiers:
Elite Status Benefits:
Million Miler Program:
Upgrades on American: https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/A...ex.jsp#500mile
2015 - January Updates:
2015 - 2nd Quarter Updates:
N.B. The previous thread discussing the putative, pre-announcement AAdvantage program, entitled "Speculation and discussion of what the new merged FFP might look like (consolidated)" can be found here; it has been closed and archived.
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Oct 27, 14, 10:53 pm
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REACTION DISCUSSION: Combined AA/US AAdvantage program announced Oct 2014 – opinions
This thread has been split from the original, now re titled "JUST THE FACTS" thread to allow free discussion to flow without hiding posts made in the former thread and losing facts and information among discussion and "feelings" type posts.
Some may be experiencing feelings of loss and anger; it's common when we have change imposed on us we have no control over; let's not let that spill over on esch other. It's time to cut others some slack, share some empathy and help others deal with the sharp and pointy bits of this merger.
The FT Rules are still in effect. Name calling, being uncivil and bashing each other will not be tolerated. Let's remember what FT is about - being welcoming and helpful to each other.
The other thread is:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...acts-only.html
Thank you.
AA fora Moderation Team
Some may be experiencing feelings of loss and anger; it's common when we have change imposed on us we have no control over; let's not let that spill over on esch other. It's time to cut others some slack, share some empathy and help others deal with the sharp and pointy bits of this merger.
The FT Rules are still in effect. Name calling, being uncivil and bashing each other will not be tolerated. Let's remember what FT is about - being welcoming and helpful to each other.
The other thread is:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...acts-only.html
Thank you.
AA fora Moderation Team
Last edited by JDiver; Nov 6, 14 at 11:59 am
Oct 29, 14, 4:11 pm
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Bump to get this up there.
For my part, I'm sure some will be upset at the 120 segment requirement (AFAIK brought over from US), and many more at the loss of 75k status.
OTOH lifetime miles may now be accrued on all oneworld flights flown in eligible miles-earning fare classes.
For my part, I'm sure some will be upset at the 120 segment requirement (AFAIK brought over from US), and many more at the loss of 75k status.
OTOH lifetime miles may now be accrued on all oneworld flights flown in eligible miles-earning fare classes.
Last edited by JDiver; Oct 29, 14 at 4:24 pm
Oct 29, 14, 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Superguy
I'll sum up my reaction coming from the US side of the house: it sucks. 
Oct 29, 14, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Speedracer2
Other than the additional system wide upgrades I agree with you, the new Executive Platinum benefits truly suck compared to the old Chairman's preferred. And for those unfortunate US flyers who won't reach the 100,000 miles/points or 120 segments, it probably sucks even more.
So I miss out on the 8 SWUs, and I wasn't earning stickers either. Doubly screwed. 
Oct 29, 14, 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Superguy
I'll sum up my reaction coming from the US side of the house: it sucks.
Originally Posted by VickiSoCal
Anyone who was surprised by ...3 levels, etc hasn't been paying attention.
Oct 29, 14, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by VickiSoCal
Anyone who was surprised by the stickers, 3 levels, etc hasn't been paying attention.
Oct 29, 14, 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by MAH4546
I guess I'm in the minority - I never really thought going to four levels or UDU was going to happen.
Thus far it seems:
Round 1, Domestic Meals --> US
Round 2, AAdvantage --> AA
What's up next I wonder...
Oct 29, 14, 6:19 pm
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I just cant believe they retroactively screwed the US Platinum's. Dougie must really hate US Platinum's to wait until late October to tell them all their extra flying was worthless. Earn most of the year assuming a benefit for 2015 and then find out it will only last a few months into 2015. Talk about bait and switch. I was going for US Platinum assuming there was no way they could take the level away for next year this late in 2014, wow was I wrong. Thankfully I haven't gotten too close and there is still time to at least only drop to Silver on Delta.
I also really cant believe they went with the anachronistic AA program that is stuck in a 1980's time warp. Stickers?!? Really! US implemented unlimited upgrades a decade or more ago and everyone else has since. AA is clinging
to stickers and living in the past.
I also really cant believe they went with the anachronistic AA program that is stuck in a 1980's time warp. Stickers?!? Really! US implemented unlimited upgrades a decade or more ago and everyone else has since. AA is clinging
to stickers and living in the past.
Oct 29, 14, 6:19 pm
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Originally Posted by MAH4546
I guess I'm in the minority - I never really thought going to four levels or UDU was going to happen.
Oct 29, 14, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by VickiSoCal
Anyone who was surprised by the stickers, 3 levels, etc hasn't been paying attention.
3 levels didn't shock me, screwing the US Platinum's so late in the game shocked me. I thought they would just keep 4 levels in US and 3 on American until the end of 2015 and then combine everything at once with at least 9 months of lead time. It is really unethical to do what the new AA has done to US Platinum's.
Oct 29, 14, 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by veliger
...I also really cant believe they went with the anachronistic AA program that is stuck in a 1980's time warp. Stickers?!? Really! US implemented unlimited upgrades a decade or more ago and everyone else has since. AA is clinging to stickers and living in the past.
to stickers and living in the past.
Originally Posted by vasantn
Me neither. Dunno if that was wishful thinking, but I'm pretty happy.
Oct 29, 14, 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
You're aware-- I assume/hope-- that AA does not actually call them "stickers"-- that it's an FT short-hand? And, yes, AAdv is "clinging" to the AAdv system-- the smarter system of the two where people have to actually pony up a bit for their free upgrades and thereby hopefully aren't subjected to US Air slop (an experiment tried and, thank god, resoundingly failed) in first class.
One day we'll sit down over some Zimas and I'll tell you the somewhat interesting story of "just how close we came..." (to 4 AAdv elite levels.)
One day we'll sit down over some Zimas and I'll tell you the somewhat interesting story of "just how close we came..." (to 4 AAdv elite levels.)
I'll bite, what was the decisive argument that swayed AA to 3 instead of 4 levels?
