77W, 772 & CIP 763 to NGBC changes, no F / no flat bed J - what to do? (consolidated)
Jan 12, 2015, 8:30 am
#151
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 4
Change flight if can
Hi
I haven't posted before but noticed our booking to Orlando in April (via Miami) on AA57 had moved from the 77W to the 777-200. As we have 7 seats in Business and I only chose the American flight to try the new business class (trip booked through BA Hols).
We seem to have had the Miami-Orlando flights be changed or cancelled a number of times already. However I just called BA and they have let me change to the BA 747 flight. I think this was only because of this internal flight changes I would imagine I would have got a no if had just booked a Miami return. So if you have any changes give it a go.
I don't think the old 777-200 American flight is worth the risk of it not changing back to the 77W - the reviews online are horrific and I guess the seats are probably 20+ years old.
I haven't posted before but noticed our booking to Orlando in April (via Miami) on AA57 had moved from the 77W to the 777-200. As we have 7 seats in Business and I only chose the American flight to try the new business class (trip booked through BA Hols).
We seem to have had the Miami-Orlando flights be changed or cancelled a number of times already. However I just called BA and they have let me change to the BA 747 flight. I think this was only because of this internal flight changes I would imagine I would have got a no if had just booked a Miami return. So if you have any changes give it a go.
I don't think the old 777-200 American flight is worth the risk of it not changing back to the 77W - the reviews online are horrific and I guess the seats are probably 20+ years old.
Jan 12, 2015, 10:07 am
#152
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 126
I had tried to change mine but its not possible.
It seems odd other than if it operational reasons why they would open Aa56/7 as a 77W then decide to remove the 77W and later re-instate it on the AA38/9 service.
If I had known the 77W would be on AA38/9 I would of booked that flight, I'm sure there's many other people who are annoyed with the change outside of this forum too.
There has however been a number of occasions where its been mentioned that it may be that MIA/LHR is going double daily on the 77W however at present only AA38/9 is a 77W and only until mid April when at present it changes back to 777 but this could be due to the way they load their schedules.
It seems odd other than if it operational reasons why they would open Aa56/7 as a 77W then decide to remove the 77W and later re-instate it on the AA38/9 service.
If I had known the 77W would be on AA38/9 I would of booked that flight, I'm sure there's many other people who are annoyed with the change outside of this forum too.
There has however been a number of occasions where its been mentioned that it may be that MIA/LHR is going double daily on the 77W however at present only AA38/9 is a 77W and only until mid April when at present it changes back to 777 but this could be due to the way they load their schedules.
Jan 13, 2015, 11:18 am
#153
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: London (and Cayman Islands)
Programs: AA 3MM
Posts: 810
I'm a regular on the MIA-LHR route on AA, even though I have options in getting to LHR. The reason is simple. The 77W. Whether (typically) in J, or (sometimes) in Y (MCE), the 77W is by far the best option across the pond at this stage.
Have numerous trips planned Q1, Q2 and now wondering what to do as it seems very unclear whether 56/57 or 38/39 (either/or/both?) will have the 77W ? If it means the 772, I'll be moving routes / carriers.
Any ideas how to get current information ?
Have numerous trips planned Q1, Q2 and now wondering what to do as it seems very unclear whether 56/57 or 38/39 (either/or/both?) will have the 77W ? If it means the 772, I'll be moving routes / carriers.
Any ideas how to get current information ?
Jan 13, 2015, 1:42 pm
#154
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 126
I'm a regular on the MIA-LHR route on AA, even though I have options in getting to LHR. The reason is simple. The 77W. Whether (typically) in J, or (sometimes) in Y (MCE), the 77W is by far the best option across the pond at this stage.
Have numerous trips planned Q1, Q2 and now wondering what to do as it seems very unclear whether 56/57 or 38/39 (either/or/both?) will have the 77W ? If it means the 772, I'll be moving routes / carriers.
Any ideas how to get current information ?
Have numerous trips planned Q1, Q2 and now wondering what to do as it seems very unclear whether 56/57 or 38/39 (either/or/both?) will have the 77W ? If it means the 772, I'll be moving routes / carriers.
Any ideas how to get current information ?
At present AA38/9 only appears on the 77W until 15th April but this could be to do with how far out the schedule is loaded.
Either way it does seem strange that they would remove it from AA56 and reinstate it on the later AA38/9 after annoying all the people booked on AA56/7
Like I said someone with more knowledge of the 77W schedule may be able to say if they feel their is the aircraft capacity to run a double daily MIA-LHR.
Jan 13, 2015, 6:34 pm
#155
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: London (and Cayman Islands)
Programs: AA 3MM
Posts: 810
Thanks. I'm not that familiar with where AA flies the 77W. If I am going to bypass MIA-LHR after they switch to 772, am I accurate in thinking that 77W is pretty much guaranteed on JFK-LHR ? Any other East coast destinations to LHR have the same ? (or at least similar J seats... such as CLT-LHR on US, I've heard).
Jan 25, 2015, 1:36 pm
#156
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 126
Looks like AA38/9 is now scheduled on the 77W past April and further into the schedule.
Always wonder why they sold AA56 as the 77W then decided to change it to AA38/9 annoying for people like me who booked 56/7 for the 77W but would of been happier flying on AA38/9 for timings.
Always wonder why they sold AA56 as the 77W then decided to change it to AA38/9 annoying for people like me who booked 56/7 for the 77W but would of been happier flying on AA38/9 for timings.
Jan 25, 2015, 2:08 pm
#157
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Location: London (and Cayman Islands)
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Looks like AA38/9 is now scheduled on the 77W past April and further into the schedule.
Always wonder why they sold AA56 as the 77W then decided to change it to AA38/9 annoying for people like me who booked 56/7 for the 77W but would of been happier flying on AA38/9 for timings.
Always wonder why they sold AA56 as the 77W then decided to change it to AA38/9 annoying for people like me who booked 56/7 for the 77W but would of been happier flying on AA38/9 for timings.
Jan 26, 2015, 12:35 am
#158
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 126
Mar 26, 2015, 6:31 pm
#159
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 674
I waited a bit to see if they changed it back, of course they didn't. I followed the advice up thread and called AA directly (I am on a BA ticket) to ask them to authorise a change onto AA38 as that has got the 77W now instead. It took a bit of back and forth (and calls to BA in the meantime) and being exceedingly nice/polite/apologetic but eventually AA put the note on and BA changed me onto the 38...woohoo, great success ^
Mar 27, 2015, 3:13 am
#160
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Bit of an update on this.
I waited a bit to see if they changed it back, of course they didn't. I followed the advice up thread and called AA directly (I am on a BA ticket) to ask them to authorise a change onto AA38 as that has got the 77W now instead. It took a bit of back and forth (and calls to BA in the meantime) and being exceedingly nice/polite/apologetic but eventually AA put the note on and BA changed me onto the 38...woohoo, great success ^
I waited a bit to see if they changed it back, of course they didn't. I followed the advice up thread and called AA directly (I am on a BA ticket) to ask them to authorise a change onto AA38 as that has got the 77W now instead. It took a bit of back and forth (and calls to BA in the meantime) and being exceedingly nice/polite/apologetic but eventually AA put the note on and BA changed me onto the 38...woohoo, great success ^
May 8, 2015, 6:33 pm
#161
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Lubbock, TX
Programs: AA Plat
Posts: 35
AA50 DFW-LHR missing seat map
I booked a trip in J for my wife and I DFW-LHR on 5/23. We were very excited about taking the 77W. I got burned last December when they switched me to the 772. I was hoping to avoid a repeat...
However, for the past week, I haven't been able to pull the seat map for that flight on AA.com or ExpertFlyer. ExpertFlyer shows the following message:
There was an error message from the airline when trying to retrieve this seat map: EQUIPMENT CHANGE IN PROGRESS
At first I thought that they were changing to the 772 like back in December. However, at this point it has been a week, so I don't know what to think. I spoke to an agent at the admirals club today and they said the equipment change doesn't make sense since J was nearly full.
A couple of questions:
Should I just change to the BA flight? Never flown their J cabin before.
If we are in 3 D/G and J is almost full and they downgrade to the 772, what are the chances they would put us in the 3 D/G in F? I'm platinum and my wife is gold, although I don't know if this makes any difference in this situation.
If lightning strikes twice and I'm stuck in the old business class, is there anything I can do to ensure we are seated together in the A/B or H/J pair? That would at least be tolerable. Getting stuck 3 across in the middle might be a nightmare.
However, for the past week, I haven't been able to pull the seat map for that flight on AA.com or ExpertFlyer. ExpertFlyer shows the following message:
There was an error message from the airline when trying to retrieve this seat map: EQUIPMENT CHANGE IN PROGRESS
At first I thought that they were changing to the 772 like back in December. However, at this point it has been a week, so I don't know what to think. I spoke to an agent at the admirals club today and they said the equipment change doesn't make sense since J was nearly full.
A couple of questions:
Should I just change to the BA flight? Never flown their J cabin before.
If we are in 3 D/G and J is almost full and they downgrade to the 772, what are the chances they would put us in the 3 D/G in F? I'm platinum and my wife is gold, although I don't know if this makes any difference in this situation.
If lightning strikes twice and I'm stuck in the old business class, is there anything I can do to ensure we are seated together in the A/B or H/J pair? That would at least be tolerable. Getting stuck 3 across in the middle might be a nightmare.
May 8, 2015, 6:47 pm
#162
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SFO, SJC
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I had the same thing happen to me for this weekends Aa50/51 pair. In fact the next several weekends are messed up.
This weekend pair seat map opened back up on Wednesday - 2 days ago. It now displays a 77w as originally scheduled. I am a happy camper that they didn't actually swap equipment...
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
This weekend pair seat map opened back up on Wednesday - 2 days ago. It now displays a 77w as originally scheduled. I am a happy camper that they didn't actually swap equipment...
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
May 8, 2015, 8:45 pm
#163
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP - Marriott LT Platinum - National Exec Elite
Posts: 1,112
AA.com shows AA50 as 77W, but having no F cabin for sale - also won't load a seat map. Possibly could go to 77D?
EDIT: Although 5/24 AA51 which should be the return is still a 77W loading properly.
EDIT: Although 5/24 AA51 which should be the return is still a 77W loading properly.
May 8, 2015, 8:56 pm
#164
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Btw, Aa51 is not always the return bird for aa50. Sometimes aa51 is one of the early jfk flights - 100 or 106.
Cheers.
May 9, 2015, 6:19 am
#165
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: LHR, SAN
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I'm wondering how Dallas was once premium enough to have all the 77Ws but then suddenly wasn't. Did the clientele change? Last month we had an old 763!
Travelling as a couple on BA means you can sit genuinely together and still have lie-flats, if that helps. Feet aren't trapped in a cubby while in bed mode, either. Last year there were still a few 747s flying this route, if I remember correctly, and that would offer upper deck. But I just looked it up and it says 777 now.
Having said all that, I don't actually have a clear preference between the two carriers. Food is much of a muchness, wine is better on BA, service in AA J (IME only) far exceeds service in BA J. What's it worth to you for a shot at the 77W?
Travelling as a couple on BA means you can sit genuinely together and still have lie-flats, if that helps. Feet aren't trapped in a cubby while in bed mode, either. Last year there were still a few 747s flying this route, if I remember correctly, and that would offer upper deck. But I just looked it up and it says 777 now.
Having said all that, I don't actually have a clear preference between the two carriers. Food is much of a muchness, wine is better on BA, service in AA J (IME only) far exceeds service in BA J. What's it worth to you for a shot at the 77W?