Apr 7, 2016, 6:11 pm
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AA Hawaii Service
Changes since merger and going forward
AA operates Hawai'i service withChanges since merger and going forward
West Coast - Airbus A321H ETOPS (similar to A321S, may be weight restricted)
PHX: LUS ex-“East” Boeing 757-200* (new 75H) with 12 F recliner seats and 176 Y including MCE (ten of these will be used going forward). Seasonal flights with the Airbus A330-300.
DFW , seasonal ORD Hawaii Flights are operated with lie flat Business seat, Boeing 767-323ER; 777-200ER / 772 seasonal variations may occur.
*The LUS B75H "West" models) have been returned to their lessor. (Thanks to TWA884 - see here.)
Changes to Hawaii service since merger, late 2014 on (consolidated)
Nov 2, 2017, 7:20 am
#331
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I just booked AA Flight 228 (LAX-HNL, departs 8:11pm and arrives 12:29am) and am having buyer's remorse, realizing that the meal service is listed as "Snack or Brunch" (I'm assuming because of the 8pm departure cutoff).
Can anybody confirm this is actually the case, or do they make an exception?
Can anybody confirm this is actually the case, or do they make an exception?
Nov 14, 2017, 11:42 am
#332
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I flew AA 5 yesterday in economy. First was the 1-2-1 configuration. It was terrible like I imagined (delayed about 40 minutes). The only IFE was on the overhead screens. The plane sounded terrible as well. The crew seemed nice and the meal was nice (even though I only ate the chips). I would not do it again on the 763. As a side note, it had a few empty seats (I counted five). Most notably, a guy had a a whole 3 seat row to himself...
Nov 22, 2017, 2:19 am
#333
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A144 (HNL-LAX redeye) food service
Does anyone know what the food service is on the AA144, HNL-LAX redeye departs 23:35, arrives 07:00 ?
In early January that is scheduled to be a 772 (new seats) so I intend to spend most of it horizontal and asleep in (domestic) First.
Will there be any breakfast, and what sort is it likely to be?
(The threads on domestic meals don't seem to mention this flight, and it's not quite like any other: not transcontinental 3-class, Hawaii usually gets a slight different service so direct comparison with, it's a long flight, etc)
In early January that is scheduled to be a 772 (new seats) so I intend to spend most of it horizontal and asleep in (domestic) First.
Will there be any breakfast, and what sort is it likely to be?
(The threads on domestic meals don't seem to mention this flight, and it's not quite like any other: not transcontinental 3-class, Hawaii usually gets a slight different service so direct comparison with, it's a long flight, etc)
Nov 22, 2017, 10:46 am
#334
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Does anyone know what the food service is on the AA144, HNL-LAX redeye departs 23:35, arrives 07:00 ?
In early January that is scheduled to be a 772 (new seats) so I intend to spend most of it horizontal and asleep in (domestic) First.
Will there be any breakfast, and what sort is it likely to be?
(The threads on domestic meals don't seem to mention this flight, and it's not quite like any other: not transcontinental 3-class, Hawaii usually gets a slight different service so direct comparison with, it's a long flight, etc)
In early January that is scheduled to be a 772 (new seats) so I intend to spend most of it horizontal and asleep in (domestic) First.
Will there be any breakfast, and what sort is it likely to be?
(The threads on domestic meals don't seem to mention this flight, and it's not quite like any other: not transcontinental 3-class, Hawaii usually gets a slight different service so direct comparison with, it's a long flight, etc)
My expectation would be: Beverage service after T/O ........ lights out........then an hour prior to landing..... Breakfast - choice of fruit or muesli. Plus yogurt, juice and warm pastry.
My reaction ...... perfectly adequate if you had had an evening meal and were not ravenous on boarding ..... also snacks (crisps etc available during the flight) for those who wish!
Nov 23, 2017, 7:44 am
#335
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My expectation would be: Beverage service after T/O ........ lights out........then an hour prior to landing..... Breakfast - choice of fruit or muesli. Plus yogurt, juice and warm pastry.
My reaction ...... perfectly adequate if you had had an evening meal and were not ravenous on boarding ..... also snacks (crisps etc available during the flight) for those who wish!
My reaction ...... perfectly adequate if you had had an evening meal and were not ravenous on boarding ..... also snacks (crisps etc available during the flight) for those who wish!
OR a snack after T/O and a muffin before landing.
Nov 23, 2017, 3:26 pm
#336
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Keep in mind the 767 2x3x2 along with A330 2x4x2 are the most comfortable main cabin configurations to Hawaii. United only has streaming IFE. No screens all. I prefer the available music channels on AA to that. The 777-200 with AVOD will be back on DFW/HNL soon. And for the next couple of years AVOD is available on the A321s LAX/Hawai’i.
The 321 AVOD is chock full of movies, TV shows, and games, plus the moving map for takeoff and landing. If you end up in the main cabin, I think it's the best AA experience. 10A on the 321 is about as good of a coach experience to Hawaii as it gets.
Nov 24, 2017, 4:54 pm
#337
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My expectation would be: Beverage service after T/O ........ lights out........then an hour prior to landing..... Breakfast - choice of fruit or muesli. Plus yogurt, juice and warm pastry.
My reaction ...... perfectly adequate if you had had an evening meal and were not ravenous on boarding ..... also snacks (crisps etc available during the flight) for those who wish!
My reaction ...... perfectly adequate if you had had an evening meal and were not ravenous on boarding ..... also snacks (crisps etc available during the flight) for those who wish!
Nov 24, 2017, 8:39 pm
#338
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Nov 24, 2017, 9:32 pm
#339
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Pathetic offering, if you ask me.
Nov 24, 2017, 9:37 pm
#340
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It's really hard to tell what AA is doing at any given time. When I flew from PHX-HNL last Christmas, it was a 757 with 12 F seats (the uncomfortable new AA F seats that slide forward when you recline). I thought these were reconfigured from an international configuration, but I could definitely be wrong.
Honestly, I would have rather had any other F seat (Eisenhower or old HP seats) over these awful new seats. I had a backache after 90 minutes of a 6.5 hour flight.
And, then of course, some of our posters in the know are saying that another change to 737 MAX8's will be coming in a couple of years!
Honestly, I would have rather had any other F seat (Eisenhower or old HP seats) over these awful new seats. I had a backache after 90 minutes of a 6.5 hour flight.
And, then of course, some of our posters in the know are saying that another change to 737 MAX8's will be coming in a couple of years!
Nov 24, 2017, 11:05 pm
#341
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Nov 26, 2017, 11:50 am
#342
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Yes. Meal service consists of the snack tray (usually a choice of either a hummus plate or fruit and cheese plate for example), and a chocolate bar, and crackers on the tray. Then you get the short-haul breakfast tray prior to arrival, consisting of yogurt, granola, and a piece of fruit for example. Nothing hot (other than the towels) in either service.
Pathetic offering, if you ask me.
Pathetic offering, if you ask me.
It's not a great offering, but for a flight scheduled at 5h34 and often actually flown in less than 5h, a sleeper service departure meal seems reasonable. The breakfast could be decidedly better, indeed. We may bring some of our own items for that.
Nov 27, 2017, 11:20 am
#343
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Yes. Meal service consists of the snack tray (usually a choice of either a hummus plate or fruit and cheese plate for example), and a chocolate bar, and crackers on the tray. Then you get the short-haul breakfast tray prior to arrival, consisting of yogurt, granola, and a piece of fruit for example. Nothing hot (other than the towels) in either service.
Pathetic offering, if you ask me.
Pathetic offering, if you ask me.
Dec 27, 2017, 11:55 am
#344
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I just booked AA Flight 228 (LAX-HNL, departs 8:11pm and arrives 12:29am) and am having buyer's remorse, realizing that the meal service is listed as "Snack or Brunch" (I'm assuming because of the 8pm departure cutoff).
Can anybody confirm this is actually the case, or do they make an exception?
Can anybody confirm this is actually the case, or do they make an exception?
Dec 27, 2017, 12:05 pm
#345
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It's really hard to tell what AA is doing at any given time. When I flew from PHX-HNL last Christmas, it was a 757 with 12 F seats (the uncomfortable new AA F seats that slide forward when you recline). I thought these were reconfigured from an international configuration, but I could definitely be wrong.
Honestly, I would have rather had any other F seat (Eisenhower or old HP seats) over these awful new seats. I had a backache after 90 minutes of a 6.5 hour flight.
And, then of course, some of our posters in the know are saying that another change to 737 MAX8's will be coming in a couple of years!
Honestly, I would have rather had any other F seat (Eisenhower or old HP seats) over these awful new seats. I had a backache after 90 minutes of a 6.5 hour flight.
And, then of course, some of our posters in the know are saying that another change to 737 MAX8's will be coming in a couple of years!
My personal favorites were the S80 F seats. They felt like a comfortable wingback lounge chair.