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aeo Mar 5, 2014 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by dtremit (Post 22460003)
All US and AA flights are now codeshared (with the exception of some international flights where there are legal hoops), and all the flight numbers are the same. They renumbered flights on both sides starting last summer so there would be no overlap between the two. You need to be careful when you buy tickets to see who the operating carrier is -- it's pretty obvious on usairways.com if you know where to look.

I'm not sure I'm following you. The operating carrier is AA. There's an AA flight number. It's a route that US doesn't fly. In other words, it appears that AA flight 104 from JFK-LHR, sold as AA flight 104 on usair.com, is actually a US Air marketed flight. I would have expected the flight to be sold as US104, operated by American, or something like that. Otherwise, it's confusing.

dtremit Mar 5, 2014 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by aeo (Post 22468029)
I'm not sure I'm following you. The operating carrier is AA. There's an AA flight number. It's a route that US doesn't fly. In other words, it appears that AA flight 104 from JFK-LHR, sold as AA flight 104 on usair.com, is actually a US Air marketed flight. I would have expected the flight to be sold as US104, operated by American, or something like that. Otherwise, it's confusing.

Where are you seeing an AA flight number? Looking at next Wednesday, I see exactly what you expect -- flight 104, operated by American:

http://i.imgur.com/qu3sf3F.png

US doesn't typically sell partner flights other than codeshares through the website. The few routes that aren't codeshared are not for sale, at the moment.

aeo Mar 5, 2014 5:43 pm

Was misled I guess by the AA trademark next to the flight number. It's different than the way aa.com handles the same situation. Also did not realize that US unlike AA does not sell non-US marketed/operated tickets on its website. I've bought united tickets on aa.com, for example.

dtremit Mar 5, 2014 6:32 pm

It's...not the most sophisticated booking platform, I'll give you that.

Then again, you get your receipt in under a minute...

relangford Mar 6, 2014 11:01 pm

I need to travel ICN>DCA soon. I usually just check on aa.com, but wanted to see what might lie on usair.com. US had a number of Asiana codeshares (which were not on aa.com), but nothing on AA metal; seems strange (since there is ICN>DFW on AA and Asiana isn't ow which US will be when I travel in May).

phlwookie Mar 7, 2014 8:38 am

It's probable that ICN-DFW on AA is one of the codeshares still pending regulatory approval and therefore it won't yet show up.

dtremit Mar 7, 2014 10:56 am


Originally Posted by phlwookie (Post 22480318)
It's probable that ICN-DFW on AA is one of the codeshares still pending regulatory approval and therefore it won't yet show up.

The full list is:


Due to regulatory requirements in certain countries, select international flights are currently not included in our codeshare. We will be rolling out codeshare in the following countries over the coming weeks:
  • Argentina
  • Brazil
  • China
  • Dominican Republic
  • Ecuador
  • Korea
  • Mexico
  • Uruguay
  • Venezuela


FlyMusic Mar 15, 2014 9:32 am

big price difference between AA/US NYC-PHX
 
I can't see how this has been mentioned before but my search did not turn up anything directly related. Apologies if this was covered.

I just booked a LGA-CLT-PHX-JFK (all US operated) ticket which was identified on the ITA matrix. AA was pricing the ticket at around $1000 while US was $610. Should I always try to purchase on the operating airlines site for the time being?

BoeingBoy Mar 15, 2014 9:38 am

Not necessarily - the safe course would be to check both sites. Of course, crediting mileage, status perks on one and not the other, etc all enter into the equation.

Jim

Tintam Mar 16, 2014 2:56 pm

I had some very low airfares show up but they seem to be the opposite of what most of you are reporting.

We are flying from ORD to FCO but returning home CDG to ORD this August. Typical fares have been about $1500-1700.

A few weeks ago on a Thursday night, the ita matrix showed a one stop itinerary on AA for about $1100.

It ended up being ORD-PHL-FCO and then CDG-CLT-ORD. These are AA legs to and from ORD but US Airways on the transatlantic legs.

Directly on US Air's site, each ticket was more than $1700 each, but on the AA website, booking these codeshares came out to just over $1100 each. And that's what I booked.

george 3 Mar 17, 2014 11:34 am

Just ran this:

4/1 JFK-PHX-JFK on US 621/622 $991 F R/T

Same flights on AA $2,821 F R/T

LaphroaigAndRibeye Mar 20, 2014 2:49 pm

AA Low Price Guarantee vs. U.S. Airways Fare?
 
I'm looking at an AA itinerary that shows at $421 on AA.com and $361 on USAirways.com. They are both AA-operated flights. And looking at US Airways, it doesn't look like a codeshare per se, as it still shows up on their site as AA flights.

Do you think this would qualify for lowest price guarantee? T&C does not have anything about disqualifying US Airways. It does say it "does not include codeshare flights" but I think it's referring to the actual booking on AA.com (and I don't know if the US Airways flight is a codeshare regardless.)

What's your read on this? Has anyone had luck with that? It seems weird to me that US Airways would price a pair of AA flights at $60 less than AA does but that's definitely what it's doing.

FAA1996 Mar 20, 2014 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by Steven6702 (Post 22559389)
I'm looking at an AA itinerary that shows at $421 on AA.com and $361 on USAirways.com. They are both AA-operated flights. And looking at US Airways, it doesn't look like a codeshare per se, as it still shows up on their site as AA flights.

Do you think this would qualify for lowest price guarantee? T&C does not have anything about disqualifying US Airways. It does say it "does not include codeshare flights" but I think it's referring to the actual booking on AA.com (and I don't know if the US Airways flight is a codeshare regardless.)

What's your read on this? Has anyone had luck with that? It seems weird to me that US Airways would price a pair of AA flights at $60 less than AA does but that's definitely what it's doing.

Why don't you just buy it from usairways?

LaphroaigAndRibeye Mar 20, 2014 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by FAA1996 (Post 22559413)
Why don't you just buy it from usairways?

1) Because I would prefer to upgrade on this flight and would not be eligible to do so if I book on US Airways.

2) My girlfriend will be joining me on the return flight and if we both book AA then she can join me as a companion for that segment in Main Cabin Extra and potentially a First Class upgrade as well.

3) I'm using my AA credit card to book and will miss out on my 2x multiplier if I book through US Airways.

4) The $50 promo code would be kind of nice.

Do you think this would be eligible?

To further clarify since I see this has been merged into a thread about AA vs. US Air prices, I guess this is not so anomalous to see these differences. However what I'd like to figure out is whether the T&C on the Low Price Guarantee account for this situation adequately, or whether it could potentially be used to get a low price adjustment.

miamigrad Mar 20, 2014 3:11 pm

Hi Steven6702,

Others have been noticing that US Airways and AA pricing have not been matching up.
Until they begin operating as a single airline, and more of their operations function as one, I suspect all of us will continue with these headaches.

I've merged your thread into the consolidated thread on the topic. Since it is affecting both airlines, the thread will be housed in the "parent"/consolidated forum.

Your understanding is appreciated.

/moderator


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