Feb 26, 2013, 11:40 am
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Miles on Qantas / QF codeshare operated by other airlines, EK etc. (consolidated)
aa.com:
Earn miles (on Qantas Airways) Link
Earn elite-qualifying AAdvantage miles when you fly on Qantas marketed and operated flights as well as Qantas Airways codeshare flights. Simply:
Exceptions
Qantas codeshare flights operated by Jetstar are ineligible for any AAdvantage mile accrual or elite credit.
Earn elite-qualifying AAdvantage miles when you fly on Qantas marketed and operated flights as well as Qantas Airways codeshare flights. Simply:
- Buy an eligible published fare ticket booked in an eligible code
- Fly an eligible route
- Specific flights, routes or cities that are excluded from earning miles or award travel are listed as exceptions if applicable.
Qantas codeshare flights operated by Jetstar are ineligible for any AAdvantage mile accrual or elite credit.
"I am happy to say that any flights marketed by Qantas Airlines but operated by another airline, including Etihad Airways, is (sic) eligible to receive miles based on the booking class. The earning requirements would apply as if you were flying on a Qantas Airlines flight. Please visit www.aa.com/qantas to view the accrual chart."
From JonNYC at travelingbetter as of September 2013:
In addition, it's now my belief (and -some- of this was in this thread, but never as confirmed as I now feel we are approaching) here is where I think we are at:
QF
ALL QF #'d flights earn EQP/EQM/EQS, *except* operated by Jetstar (JQ) & Jetstar Asia (3K)
QF
ALL QF #'d flights earn EQP/EQM/EQS, *except* operated by Jetstar (JQ) & Jetstar Asia (3K)
Miles on Qantas / QF codeshare operated by other airlines, EK etc. (consolidated)
Feb 18, 2013, 1:02 pm
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Miles on Qantas / QF codeshare operated by other airlines, EK etc. (consolidated)
I will be flying QF 8355 SIN-DXB in few months in F, but the flight is operated by EK... can I credit miles to my AA miles account or just to EK or Alaska accounts?
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Feb 18, 2013, 1:38 pm
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You need to look here: (AAdvantage Partners - Qantas)
That would indicate to me that all you need is the QF flight number and eligible booking class (and not JQ metal).
Earn miles when flying on Qantas Airways marketed and operated flights for travel on an eligible published fare ticket. Miles are also earned on Qantas Airways codeshare flights*.
Travel on Qantas and affiliate airlines counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.
*Travel on codeshare flights marketed by Qantas Airways (booked under a QF flight number) and operated by Jetstar Airways only earn miles when the customer is traveling on oneworld Explorer Fare.
Travel on Qantas and affiliate airlines counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.
*Travel on codeshare flights marketed by Qantas Airways (booked under a QF flight number) and operated by Jetstar Airways only earn miles when the customer is traveling on oneworld Explorer Fare.
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I doubt you will earn EQM for the trip as the light is not operated by a oneworld airline.
You wil get the mile credited to the AAdvantage account though.
You wil get the mile credited to the AAdvantage account though.
Feb 18, 2013, 2:27 pm
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QF operated by EK, under current rules, is entitled to mileage earning and so EQM earning
Feb 18, 2013, 3:03 pm
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The mileage earning rules for AAdvantage is that QF flights are eligable for EQM. There is no requirement for it to be operated by a OW airline. The only restriction ( as pointed out above ) is that JQ operated flights are generally ineligable for mileage accrual
QF operated by EK, under current rules, is entitled to mileage earning and so EQM earning
QF operated by EK, under current rules, is entitled to mileage earning and so EQM earning
I just get caustious when I read
Travel on Qantas and affiliate airlines counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.
I did not dispute that you would get the miles just the EQM towards status.
Feb 18, 2013, 3:06 pm
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The mileage earning rules for AAdvantage is that QF flights are eligable for EQM. There is no requirement for it to be operated by a OW airline. The only restriction ( as pointed out above ) is that JQ operated flights are generally ineligable for mileage accrual
QF operated by EK, under current rules, is entitled to mileage earning and so EQM earning
QF operated by EK, under current rules, is entitled to mileage earning and so EQM earning
Feb 18, 2013, 3:10 pm
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Qantas Affiliates means QantasLink and JetConnect
Per the top of this page: http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...nes/qantas.jsp
Earn miles when flying on Qantas Airways marketed and operated flights for travel on an eligible published fare ticket. Miles are also earned on Qantas Airways codeshare flights*.
If you click through the codeshare link that means an AA codeshare on QF metal..
Thus I suspect no earning on AA.
Obviously earning on EK and QF.
On Alaskan I think also out of luck. Whilst the flight number falls within the allowed ranges the flight is not marketed and operated by Qantas.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/qantas.aspx
Per the top of this page: http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...nes/qantas.jsp
Earn miles when flying on Qantas Airways marketed and operated flights for travel on an eligible published fare ticket. Miles are also earned on Qantas Airways codeshare flights*.
If you click through the codeshare link that means an AA codeshare on QF metal..
Thus I suspect no earning on AA.
Obviously earning on EK and QF.
On Alaskan I think also out of luck. Whilst the flight number falls within the allowed ranges the flight is not marketed and operated by Qantas.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/qantas.aspx
Feb 18, 2013, 4:18 pm
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There is no restriction on codeshares for Qantas, unlike some other carriers
e.g. for MH, codeshare earnings are restricted to flights where the operating carrier is a OW carrier
Obviously this is only the rule at the moment. It is always possible that by the time QF and EK start their partnership that the earning rules will change such that codeshares on EK are excluded too
Even so, this is a question for the AA forum I would say
Originally Posted by aa
Miles are also earned on Qantas Airways codeshare flights*.
*Travel on codeshare flights marketed by Qantas Airways (booked under a QF flight number) and operated by Jetstar Airways only earn miles when the customer is traveling on oneworld Explorer Fare.
*Travel on codeshare flights marketed by Qantas Airways (booked under a QF flight number) and operated by Jetstar Airways only earn miles when the customer is traveling on oneworld Explorer Fare.
There is no restriction on codeshares for Qantas, unlike some other carriers
e.g. for MH, codeshare earnings are restricted to flights where the operating carrier is a OW carrier
Originally Posted by aa.com
Miles are also earned on Malaysia Airlines codeshare flights operated by oneworld carriers and oneworld affiliates
Even so, this is a question for the AA forum I would say
Feb 18, 2013, 6:52 pm
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Dave - I disagree with you here.
If you go to
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...nes/qantas.jsp
and click on "codeshare" - it seems to define codeshare as AA codeshares on QF metal, not QF codeshare on EK metal.
If you go to
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...nes/qantas.jsp
and click on "codeshare" - it seems to define codeshare as AA codeshares on QF metal, not QF codeshare on EK metal.
Feb 18, 2013, 9:31 pm
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Dave - I disagree with you here.
If you go to
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...nes/qantas.jsp
and click on "codeshare" - it seems to define codeshare as AA codeshares on QF metal, not QF codeshare on EK metal.
If you go to
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...nes/qantas.jsp
and click on "codeshare" - it seems to define codeshare as AA codeshares on QF metal, not QF codeshare on EK metal.
If it is on a QF flight number, then the rules as per earning on QF apply
In that QF page, it shows that QF codeshares are permitted regardless of underlying airline other than that JQ is generally excluded
Feb 19, 2013, 1:19 am
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[mod hat] As this is about crediting to AAdvantage I will move this thread to the right forum [/mod hat]
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This concept is most definitely not axiomatic in the AAdvantage world. For example, an AS-marketed DL-operated flight most assuredly does not earn EQMs, redeemable miles, or anything on AA, even though it was marketed by AS. I would be very surprised to learn that a QF-marketed EK-operated flight has earned EQMs.
Feb 19, 2013, 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by aa.com
Miles are also earned on Alaska Airlines codeshare flights operated by American Airlines.
For QF, currently there is no restriction on the operating airline for codeshares other than for Jetstar flights
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The point was that it isn't an axiomatic statement. That point stands unchallenged.
The QF rules appear quite clear to me that flights must be operated by Qantas, QantasLink or Jetconnect to earn EQMs. I'm not sure how that can be causing confusion for anyone.
The QF rules appear quite clear to me that flights must be operated by Qantas, QantasLink or Jetconnect to earn EQMs. I'm not sure how that can be causing confusion for anyone.
Feb 19, 2013, 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by QF earning rules
Earn miles when flying on Qantas Airways marketed and operated flights for travel on an eligible published fare ticket. Miles are also earned on Qantas Airways codeshare flights*.
*Travel on codeshare flights marketed by Qantas Airways (booked under a QF flight number) and operated by Jetstar Airways only earn miles when the customer is traveling on oneworld Explorer Fare.
*Travel on codeshare flights marketed by Qantas Airways (booked under a QF flight number) and operated by Jetstar Airways only earn miles when the customer is traveling on oneworld Explorer Fare.
That inference would mean that QF codeshares on BA would not earn, which is definitely untrue
I read it quite clearly as
Qantas marketed and operated = Eligable
Qantas marketed ( i.e Qantas codeshare ) = Eligable
There is nothing in the QF earning rules ( unlike some of the other carriers ) that limits which codeshares are ineligable OTHER than Jetstar
When compared against the example quoted of AS codeshare on DL, the earning rules for AAdvantage are explicit in that this will not be eligable since the only AS codeshares that are eligable are those where flight is operated by AA
Where in the terms does it state that QF codeshare on EK is ineligable rather than just taking a view that it shouldnt be permitted?