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mrkymark Jun 22, 2014 7:49 pm

Just renewing this thread, can confirm that LAN Biz Avail is virtually nil. Could have sworn I saw something a few weeks ago on ba.com.

alex9654 Jun 22, 2014 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by mrkymark (Post 23079190)
Just renewing this thread, can confirm that LAN Biz Avail is virtually nil. Could have sworn I saw something a few weeks ago on ba.com.

Just today I ticketed a January 11 SCL-MIA on the 787 in C. Also put a March 29 SCL-MIA in C on hold. There were several days in late March that had a handful of seats for award redemptions. What routes are you looking at?

mrkymark Jun 23, 2014 12:25 am

You're right alex, there is some avail for the scl-mia routes. It was refreshing to see at lease one flight have a J avail. I was actually looking at lax-lim, cant find a single date that works.

katye Jul 2, 2014 5:51 pm

Phantom availability on both BA and JL website?
 
I used both BA and JPL to search Cathay seats HKG-SFO. Found several direct flights with availability on both sites on the same dates in Decmeber. I was really excited and called AA to book the award, but agent said no availability for the entire month of Dec from HKG-SFO, including connecting flights. Does anyone else have the same experience? Is there anything else I can do?

KVS Jul 2, 2014 9:11 pm


Originally Posted by katye (Post 23133899)
I used both BA and JPL to search Cathay seats HKG-SFO. Found several direct flights with availability on both sites on the same dates in Decmeber. I was really excited and called AA to book the award, but agent said no availability for the entire month of Dec from HKG-SFO, including connecting flights. Does anyone else have the same experience? Is there anything else I can do?

What are the flight(s)/date(s)/cabin(s) in question?

thechosenuno Jul 2, 2014 9:35 pm

Did you give the agent the exact dates and flights? I've called before and given dates and airlines and an agent couldn't find it. HUACA'd, got a different agent, and gave flight numbers. That agent found it.

Apparently, there are different ways an agent can search for the award availability (I believe I've read that here).

So, my advice: hang up and call again.

janwillem Jul 2, 2014 10:27 pm

I had the same experience. KVS showed F availability on a certain LHR-HKG CX flight early June. Called four or five times to the EXP desk but to no avail. They could not see it.

katye Jul 8, 2014 8:23 am

Finnally got it! HUACA'd. At first the agent told me there was no flight available late dec (not even with connections, turns out he was searching for the wrong direction (SFO-HKG instead of HKG to SFO).
For SFO-HKG leg. No direct flight available on the date I wanted, so I asked agent to search for LAX-HKG as I found some availability on BA site, then combined with a US Airway flight SFO-HKG I found on AA site. Score!
I am so excited!!! Now I have five months to look forward to my first ever first class seat. It's going to be grand. Thanks for the tips I saw in this forum otherwise I would have given up after the first try (in fact, I prob wouldn't even call-would have given up after O searched AA's site.)

bamin Jul 10, 2014 9:55 am

IB award shows available on KVS but AA cannot see it [phantom availability]
 
IB award shows available on KVS (below) but AA cannot see it. Quantas web site also show availability.
Tried 3 times with different reps but same results. Appreciate any advise?

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------
IB 6274 ORD 16:35 MAD 07:40 +1 0 CS+
-> IB 2704 MAD 09:10 +1 BCN 10:25 +1 0 CS+
IB 6274 ORD 16:35 MAD 07:40 +1 0 CS+
-> IB 2706 MAD 09:50 +1 BCN 11:10 +1 0 CS+

seawolf Jul 10, 2014 10:19 am

IB award shows available on KVS but AA cannot see it
 
Have you tried searching via BA?

millionmiler Jul 10, 2014 10:22 am

Phantom IB availability is common using the Oneworld method which is based on QF. If the flights show on both the Oneworld and BA methods then they are usually visible to AA (but not always).

Also, there is no q in Qantas.

bdemaria Jul 10, 2014 10:38 am


Originally Posted by millionmiler (Post 23175106)
Also, there is no q in Qantas.

There no "u" in Qantas, but there's most definitely a q ;)

KVS Jul 10, 2014 11:09 am


Originally Posted by bamin (Post 23174978)
IB award shows available on KVS (below) but AA cannot see it.

What is your departure date?

bamin Jul 10, 2014 12:11 pm

July 27th

KVS Jul 10, 2014 3:54 pm


Originally Posted by bamin (Post 23175764)
July 27th

As noted in the KVS Tool User Guide (and mentioned by other posters above), the preferred Method for checking Awards on IB flights is [Awards/BA-OneWorld]:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#IB

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:

ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD]
MAD  Madrid Barajas ES [LEMD]
SUN  27 Jul 2014 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------
                                                            No Award Availability/Route Too Complex

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:

MAD  Madrid Barajas ES [LEMD]
BCN  Barcelona El Prat ES [LEBL]
MON  28 Jul 2014 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
IB        2712    MAD  06:45    BCN  08:05              CS6  YS0
IB        2702    MAD  08:10    BCN  09:30              CS3  YS0
IB        2704    MAD  09:10    BCN  10:25              CS7  YS0
IB        2706    MAD  09:50    BCN  11:10              CS8  YS0
IB        2708    MAD  11:15    BCN  12:35              CS1  YS0
IB        2714    MAD  12:45    BCN  14:00              CS1  YS0
IB        2718    MAD  14:10    BCN  15:30              CS8  YS0
IB        2720    MAD  15:45    BCN  17:05              CS4  YS0
IB        2734    MAD  16:10    BCN  17:25              CS4  YS0
IB        2732    MAD  17:10    BCN  18:25              CS7  YS0
IB        2736    MAD  18:45    BCN  20:05              CS9  YS0
IB        2738    MAD  19:55    BCN  21:20              CS9  YS0
IB        2740    MAD  21:20    BCN  22:40              CS9  YS4
IB        2742    MAD  21:45    BCN  23:05              CS9  YS4
IB        3172    MAD  14:40    LHR  16:10              CS3  YS0
 -> BA    482    LHR  19:00    BCN  22:00              CS+  YS-
IB        3164    MAD  16:20    LHR  17:50              CS5  YS0
 -> BA    482    LHR  19:00    BCN  22:00              CS+  YS-



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