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Old Jun 6, 2012, 10:01 am
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TN / Air Tahiti Nui and AA to code share / codeshare (limited flights)

"American Airlines and Air Tahiti Nui today announced a bilateral codeshare agreement and applied for approval by the U.S. Department of Transportation", according to this PRNewswire article, as carried by Yahoo!. Excerpt:

When approved, the codeshare agreement will allow American to place its code on Air Tahiti Nui flights between Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) and Papeete Faa'a International Airport (PPT) and will allow Air Tahiti Nui to place its code on American flights from Los Angeles to more than 15 cities throughout the United States including New York, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Chicago, Boston, Dallas/Fort Worth, Miami and Washington - Dulles and Reagan National.
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Old Jun 6, 2012, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by SK
"American Airlines and Air Tahiti Nui today announced a bilateral codeshare agreement and applied for approval by the U.S. Department of Transportation", according to this PRNewswire article, as carried by Yahoo!. Excerpt:

When approved, the codeshare agreement will allow American to place its code on Air Tahiti Nui flights between Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) and Papeete Faa'a International Airport (PPT) and will allow Air Tahiti Nui to place its code on American flights from Los Angeles to more than 15 cities throughout the United States including New York, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Chicago, Boston, Dallas/Fort Worth, Miami and Washington - Dulles and Reagan National.
Not the LAX-CDG or other flights, just LAX-PPT.
Better than nothing I guess.
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Old Jun 6, 2012, 12:25 pm
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Half empty or half full? A good start, anyway. I just wish it were this year, as otherwise I will use AS to HNL and HA to PPT.

N.B. As this has very little to do with the speculation TN might join oneworld, it has been moved into its own thread. /Moderator
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Old Jun 6, 2012, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver
Half empty or half full? A good start, anyway. I just wish it were this year, as otherwise I will use AS to HNL and HA to PPT.
Half full. Being able to earn EQMs with an AA codeshare is ^ especially if its coming from my home airport.
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Old Jun 6, 2012, 12:36 pm
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AMR News Release

American Airlines And Air Tahiti Nui Announce New Codeshare Agreement

Code:
FORT WORTH, Texas and PAPEETE, Tahiti, June 6, 2012 

/PRNewswire/ -- American Airlines and Air Tahiti Nui, the international
 airline of Tahiti, today announced a bilateral codeshare agreement and 
applied for approval by the U.S. Department of Transportation. When 
approved, the codeshare agreement will allow American to place its code on 
Air Tahiti Nui flights between Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) and 
Papeete Faa'a International Airport (PPT) and will allow Air Tahiti Nui to 
place its code on American flights from Los Angeles to more than 15 cities 
throughout the United States including New York, San Francisco, Las 
Vegas, Chicago, Boston, Dallas/Fort Worth, Miami and Washington - Dulles 
and Reagan National.

"Upon approval, our codeshare relationship with Air Tahiti Nui will give our 
customers yet another option when traveling to the South Pacific and 
French Polynesia," said Kurt Stache, American's Vice President – Strategic 
Alliances. "We look forward to working with Air Tahiti Nui to provide our 
customers more options and easy access when traveling throughout our 
respective networks."

"The marketing strength of American Airlines will raise awareness across 
the United States about the destination of Tahiti and the addition of these 
new cities to the route network will help further develop the inflow of 
tourists to Polynesia," said Etienne Howan, Chairman and CEO of Air Tahiti 
Nui.

AAdvantage® members currently have the ability to redeem miles for 
award travel on Air Tahiti Nui. For more information on the AAdvantage 
program and for a complete list of participating airlines, visit 
AA.com/AAdvantage.


About American Airlines
American Airlines, American Eagle and the AmericanConnection® carrier 
serve 260 airports in more than 50 countries and territories with, on 
average, more than 3,500 daily flights. The combined network fleet 
numbers more than 900 aircraft. American's award-winning website, 
AA.com®, provides users with easy access to check and book fares, plus 
personalized news, information and travel offers. American Airlines is a 
founding member of the oneworld® alliance, which brings together some of 
the best and biggest names in the airline business, enabling them to offer 
their customers more services and benefits than any airline can provide on 
its own. Together, its members and members-elect serve more than 900 
destinations with more than 9,000 daily flights to 150 countries and 
territories. American Airlines, Inc. and American Eagle Airlines, Inc. are 
subsidiaries of AMR Corporation. AmericanAirlines, American Eagle, 
AmericanConnection, AA.com, and AAdvantage are trademarks of American 
Airlines, Inc. AMR Corporation common stock trades under the symbol 
"AAMRQ" on the OTCQB marketplace, operated by OTC Markets Group.

About Air Tahiti Nui
Air Tahiti Nui links the South Pacific with four continents as the leading 
carrier to and from French Polynesia, with daily non-stop service to Tahiti 
from Los Angeles, and is one of only two airlines to offer a selection of non-
stop flights connecting Los Angeles and Paris with Tahiti. Air Tahiti Nui has 
been selected as one of the "World's Best" international airlines by readers 
of Travel+Leisure in 2011, 2010 and 2008 and as Best Airline in the South 
Pacific, 2011 by readers of Global Traveller. The airline has headquarters in 
Papeete and operates from Faa'a International Airport on the island of 
Tahiti. Air Tahiti Nui was founded in 1996 and commenced flight operations 
in 1998. Air Tahiti Nui is an IATA member and satisfies the highest safety 
requirements with its IOSA certification. By 2013, a full cabin upgrade, 
while lowering fuel usage and surcharges, is set to enter service.

Current AMR Corp. news releases can be accessed at http://www.aa.com

SOURCE American Airlines
(My emphases)
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 2:00 pm
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The codeshare will be loaded this weekend (Sunday 20AUG12) and is effective for flights starting on Monday 10SEP12.

TN has 10 weekly frequencies on LAX-PPT, all operated on a 343.

This is clearly a case where TN is expecting to benefit the most from codesharing, as it's willing to pay a codeshare commission to AA on LAX-PPT (& v.v.) flights sold as AA* which is beyond the standard Interline Service Charge that applies reciprocally to all codeshared flights. AA's local fares [LAX-PPT] will match TN's.

Source for the above info

TN's J-class has old-style recliner seats with a pitch of 53'' (compare to AA's J-class on the 762 at 50" pitch). Source.
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 2:28 pm
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Nice! We're planning for SMF-LAX-PPT-LAX-SMF in March, it appears, so it will be nice to earn AAdvantage miles and credit on the LAX-PPT-LAX segments.

The Poerava Business seats are kinda meh, but it's better than coach. (And Poerava First is basically six Poerava Business eats that are allowed to recline flat, nothing special in the air.)


TN Poerava Business seats


Originally Posted by hillrider
The codeshare will be loaded this weekend (Sunday 20AUG12) and is effective for flights starting on Monday 10SEP12.

TN has 10 weekly frequencies on LAX-PPT, all operated on a 343.

This is clearly a case where TN is expecting to benefit the most from codesharing, as it's willing to pay a codeshare commission to AA on LAX-PPT (& v.v.) flights sold as AA* which is beyond the standard Interline Service Charge that applies reciprocally to all codeshared flights. AA's local fares [LAX-PPT] will match TN's.

Source for the above info

TN's J-class has old-style recliner seats with a pitch of 53'' (compare to AA's J-class on the 762 at 50" pitch). Source.
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 2:58 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver
it will be nice to earn AAdvantage miles and credit on the LAX-PPT-LAX segments.
Ah, forgot that TN is a "Redeem miles only." airline.

Of course, the segments will have to be booked as AA*.

BTW, turns out that AF also serves that market 3x/week (with a DL* codeshare), and AFIK it does have full lie-flat seats in J.

Happy diving!
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by hillrider
Ah, forgot that TN is a "Redeem miles only." airline.

Of course, the segments will have to be booked as AA*.

BTW, turns out that AF also serves that market 3x/week (with a DL* codeshare), and AFIK it does have full lie-flat seats in J.

Happy diving!
Ahhh yes but if you are diverted Air France may ask you for gas money
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 6:02 pm
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Ahhh yes but if you are diverted Air France may ask you for gas money
OK, I have to stop this urban legend.

Source : The New York Times
Originally Posted by The New York Times
Air France stopped flying to Damascus in March as fighting escalated in Syria, and Paris and Damascus are not exactly on good terms these days, with France one of the most vocal countries calling for President Bashar al-Assad and his government to step down and face charges of war crimes.
[...]
And then there is the small matter of European Union sanctions on Syria, which make even buying jet fuel, let alone on credit, a little complicated.

Authorities at the Damascus airport told the crew that they could not accept credit cards because of the sanctions — cash only. So as a precaution, an Air France spokeswoman said, the crew asked the passengers how much money they happened to have in their wallets to help pay for fuel.
Seems an extremely reasonable precaution to me; better to be prepared in these situations. At the end AF was able to arrange for payment without the Syrian leaving no other option but passing the hat around.
Originally Posted by The New York Times
In the end, the airline managed to settle the bill without help from the passengers, and the plane took off two hours later to spend the night in Cyprus, where the troubled banks still take credit cards. The plane landed safely on Thursday in Beirut, which had apparently calmed down sufficiently in the interim.

Air France refused to say how much it paid for the fuel or how it did so.
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 7:41 pm
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Ahhh yes but if you are diverted Air France may ask you for gas money
That or you can have the awards for just 2 million Sky Pesos (each way)
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 7:47 pm
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Yep - until September 10!

Thanks! (Last diving was last week - three days diving with great white sharks.)

Originally Posted by hillrider
Ah, forgot that TN is a "Redeem miles only." airline.

Of course, the segments will have to be booked as AA*.

BTW, turns out that AF also serves that market 3x/week (with a DL* codeshare), and AFIK it does have full lie-flat seats in J.

Happy diving!
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Old Aug 26, 2012, 8:25 pm
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Codeshares are loaded, in the range AA*7171 -7180.

Fares have been loaded the evening of 23AUG12

However, availability is still zeroed out, so something's not fully working yet.
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Old Aug 27, 2012, 1:07 pm
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AA marketing got in the game: https://www.aa.com/pubcontent/en_US/...rTahitiNui.jsp

Nice page, but I don't like the vagueness of this statement:
Earn More Miles
If you're an AAdvantage® member, you can earn miles which count toward qualification for AAdvantage elite status membership. You can also redeem miles for travel on Air Tahiti Nui flights.
I think it deserve an asterisk saying that AAdvantage miles are earned only on Tahiti Nui operated flights that are marketed by American Airlines as codeshare, where the ticket shows an AA flight number.

AA* availability is still all zeroed out, though.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 10:52 pm
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I'm noticing something that someone might be able to help clarify. On certain dates (Jan 25, for example), AA only has economy availabilty for the codeshare, whereas TN's website shows Business and First availability with a TN flight number. Furthermore, I cannot find one date where someone could purchase an F ticket as an AA flight number, even though TN still has F availability on its website.

Is AA only allowed to put its code on a certain # of business class seats, or are they only allowed to do this on certain days?
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