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Old Jun 6, 2009, 4:25 pm
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I'll add this about the 737: all newer versions of the 737 (for any airline), the engines don't hang directly below the wings. They are actually hanging slightly forward of the wing. This looks is distinct to any 737-300 and newer model 737s and you can use it to identify a 733 - 738 regardless of airline.

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The new 737 Classic series featured CFM56 turbofan engines, which yielded significant gains in fuel economy and a reduction in noise, but also posed an engineering challenge given the low ground clearance of the 737. Boeing and engine supplier CFMI solved the problem by placing the engine ahead of (rather than below) the wing, and by moving engine accessories to the sides (rather than the bottom) of the engine pod, giving the 737 a distinctive non-circular air intake.
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Old Jun 6, 2009, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Homeboy
Embraer 135 - 4 windows aft of the exit row.
Embraer 140 - 5 windows aft of the exit row.
Embraer 145 - 6 windows aft of the exit row.
Originally Posted by mersk862
Another easy was is to look at the tail number. ERJ-135s are all N7xxxx, ERJ-140s are all N8xxxx, ERJ-145s are all N6xxxx or N9xxxx.

CRJ-700s also have winglets, which the ERJs (that AA flies) do not have.
Good, to know, thanks! And the tail number info also helps resolve ambiguities relating to rzjets.net listings where both the 140 and 145 are listed as ERJ-145.
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Old Jun 6, 2009, 11:55 pm
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uhh, any way to tell the diff between a 747-300 and a 747-400 or between a 747-100 and 747-200?

I know most 747-100 have just the three windows in the upper deck but a few do have more windows...


757 is the easiest plane to pick out. It's oversized wing, and it's long slender fueselage.

How would you pick an Airbus A330 apart from a Boeing 767 or 777?

a few planes have dead giveaways...

747 from other models: THE HUMP!
A380: The Upper Deck
DC9/M80/717: T-Tail rear engines
727: three rear engines, t tail
DC-10: two wing engines, one tail engine
MD-11: same as DC-10 but add winglets
L-1011: looks like DC-10 but has 727 style rear engine
A340: 4 Engines
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Old Jun 6, 2009, 11:57 pm
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Originally Posted by kebosabi
A300s has a small distinct wingtip that is shaped like a triangle above and below the wing (not to be confused with winglets which only goes above the wing)
It's called a wingtip fence.
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by bniu
uhh, any way to tell the diff between a 747-300 and a 747-400 or between a 747-100 and 747-200?

I know most 747-100 have just the three windows in the upper deck but a few do have more windows...


757 is the easiest plane to pick out. It's oversized wing, and it's long slender fueselage.

How would you pick an Airbus A330 apart from a Boeing 767 or 777?

a few planes have dead giveaways...

747 from other models: THE HUMP!
A380: The Upper Deck
DC9/M80/717: T-Tail rear engines
727: three rear engines, t tail
DC-10: two wing engines, one tail engine
MD-11: same as DC-10 but add winglets
L-1011: looks like DC-10 but has 727 style rear engine
A340: 4 Engines
Not to steal your thunder, but this is the AA forum, and most of the aircraft listed above are not in their fleet.
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 7:50 am
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the "dead giveaway" for IDing the 757, its high ground clearance and long landing gear struts which combined with the small diameter fuselage give it a unique "stork" look.
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 8:44 am
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ha ha, nice one ^
Originally Posted by JDiver

The Boeing 888 is, well, have a look... and not coming to AA (or KLM)



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Old Jun 7, 2009, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by dstan
Don't think the ridge at the base of the 737-800 tail has been mentioned yet - helps distinguish 737 and 757 (if you can't see the wheels or are at a distance, and especially since more and more of the 757s have been fitted with winglets).

Also, to address a query above, the A300 does have 2 rows (pairs) of wheels on the main gear, but I'd still go by the winglets.
yes, the 737 tail fin is "kinked" quite distinctively compared to the others, about 80% of the way down.

the MD-80 is the easiest since the engines are at the rear and the tail has rear rudder flaps on top of it.

the 757 has them on the fuselage below its unkinked tail fin.

so the narrowbodies are quite clearly distinguished by their tails.

for the widebodies the tails are flathead for 777, cone for 767, and triangular for the A300. the exits and wings also do the trick, as discussed.
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by martin33
yes, the 737 tail fin is "kinked" quite distinctively compared to the others, about 80% of the way down.
+1. Pilots often call the 737s "guppies" because their proportions resemble that of a small goldfish - small body and large tail. Not only is the kink in the tail a give away ... proporationally, the tail is noticeably larger (applies to all series for the 737).
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by bniu
uhh, any way to tell the diff between a 747-300 and a 747-400
The 747-300 introduced the extended upper deck (longer "hump") to the 747 line. Very few are still flying.

The 747-400 is most easily identified by its winglets.
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 6:42 pm
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This thread has now been added to the Wiki (Planes and Seats) and Sticky (Aircraft Related).
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 10:19 pm
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How do you know A300 is leaving after this summer? Where will they go?
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 10:55 pm
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Originally Posted by shadowflower
How do you know A300 is leaving after this summer? Where will they go?
Retired to ROW. According to the AA article last year:

AA Press
In addition, AMR has decided to retire all 34 of its A300 aircraft by the end of 2009, compared to the previous retirement schedule that extended through 2012.

I can't remember where it was mentioned, but this date was pushed even further forward to August 31 possibly.
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Old Jun 8, 2009, 5:10 am
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> 757 is the easiest plane to pick out. It's oversized wing,
> and it's long slender fueselage

The 757 also sits pretty high off the ground, giving a much cooler looking reflection thanks to AA's mirror paintwork!
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Old Jun 8, 2009, 6:29 am
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It seems like a picture with each of these posts would be the most helpful, so that people can see what these descriptions look like.
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