AA says no to cash onboard
Feb 14, 2009, 3:34 pm
#61
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If they are going to go totaly cashless then perhaps AA needs to come with some system for other people such as pre-paid vouchers or a pre-paid card for onboard purchase. I'm sure the check-in machine could print out an extra slip for a voucher, or there could be machines for cards. This all is extra work for AA and probably not worth it to them, but would be a better option for those without a CC than going hungry on a long flight.
Or perhaps they could give onboard purchase credits to Elite's just as they do they 10,000 miles upgrade credits though the mag strip on your card. Again another silly idea, but maybe worth something.
Or perhaps they could give onboard purchase credits to Elite's just as they do they 10,000 miles upgrade credits though the mag strip on your card. Again another silly idea, but maybe worth something.
Feb 14, 2009, 10:59 pm
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If they are going to go totaly cashless then perhaps AA needs to come with some system for other people such as pre-paid vouchers or a pre-paid card for onboard purchase. I'm sure the check-in machine could print out an extra slip for a voucher, or there could be machines for cards. This all is extra work for AA and probably not worth it to them, but would be a better option for those without a CC than going hungry on a long flight.
Or perhaps they could give onboard purchase credits to Elite's just as they do they 10,000 miles upgrade credits though the mag strip on your card. Again another silly idea, but maybe worth something.
Or perhaps they could give onboard purchase credits to Elite's just as they do they 10,000 miles upgrade credits though the mag strip on your card. Again another silly idea, but maybe worth something.
May 21, 2009, 10:51 am
#63
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Starting June 1, 2009 AA cabins will go cashless
"On all flights within the U.S. and between U.S. and Canada, we’re keeping it simple by eliminating the need for you to carry small bills and change onboard to pay for small snacks, alcoholic beverages, light meals, or headsets."
http://www.aa.com/aa/pubcontent/en_U...g/cashless.jsp
Something that I found interesting:
Q: Are credit cards accepted on American Eagle and AmericanConnection?
A: Not at this time.
http://www.aa.com/aa/pubcontent/en_U...g/cashless.jsp
Something that I found interesting:
Q: Are credit cards accepted on American Eagle and AmericanConnection?
A: Not at this time.
May 30, 2009, 2:27 pm
#64
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Outrageous! Going cashless may be convienent for the airline but it is terribly inconvienent for those who do not have plastic. I read American's FAQ's concerning the cashless cabin. I quote Question #7 below:
"What about customers who don't carry a credit card - how will they be able to pay?
We anticipate that most of our customers will be prepared for cashless cabins as the vast majority of our tickets are purchased with credit cards."
That did not really address the issue. OK, so the vast majority of tickets are purchased with credit cards. But NOT ALL are. And there still are some of us, albeit a small minority, who deal in cash and despise plastic. Whenever I pay for a ticket I pay cash.
"What about customers who don't carry a credit card - how will they be able to pay?
We anticipate that most of our customers will be prepared for cashless cabins as the vast majority of our tickets are purchased with credit cards."
That did not really address the issue. OK, so the vast majority of tickets are purchased with credit cards. But NOT ALL are. And there still are some of us, albeit a small minority, who deal in cash and despise plastic. Whenever I pay for a ticket I pay cash.
May 30, 2009, 2:36 pm
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If not, I'd suggest bringing something on board.
Cheers.
May 30, 2009, 2:37 pm
#66
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Outrageous! Going cashless may be convienent for the airline but it is terribly inconvienent for those who do not have plastic. I read American's FAQ's concerning the cashless cabin. I quote Question #7 below:
"What about customers who don't carry a credit card - how will they be able to pay?
We anticipate that most of our customers will be prepared for cashless cabins as the vast majority of our tickets are purchased with credit cards."
That did not really address the issue. OK, so the vast majority of tickets are purchased with credit cards. But NOT ALL are. And there still are some of us, albeit a small minority, who deal in cash and despise plastic. Whenever I pay for a ticket I pay cash.
"What about customers who don't carry a credit card - how will they be able to pay?
We anticipate that most of our customers will be prepared for cashless cabins as the vast majority of our tickets are purchased with credit cards."
That did not really address the issue. OK, so the vast majority of tickets are purchased with credit cards. But NOT ALL are. And there still are some of us, albeit a small minority, who deal in cash and despise plastic. Whenever I pay for a ticket I pay cash.
If your unwilling to do any of those things, well, then I guess you aren't very hungry...
Regards
May 30, 2009, 3:04 pm
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Legality of refusing to accept cash in the US:
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq...l-tender.shtml
Question I thought that United States currency was legal tender for all debts. Some businesses or governmental agencies say that they will only accept checks, money orders or credit cards as payment, and others will only accept currency notes in denominations of $20 or smaller. Isn't this illegal?
Answer The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," which states: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues."
This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy.
Answer The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," which states: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues."
This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy.
May 30, 2009, 3:07 pm
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Legality of refusing to accept cash in the US:
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq...l-tender.shtml
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq...l-tender.shtml
Regards
May 30, 2009, 4:01 pm
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Interesting. There are, of course, prepaid Visa and Mastercard cards that are reloadable. They do not contain the balance on the mag strip - that is in the computers at Visa or Mastercard. What would AA do if you charged $20 in food and drink on a card that had a balance near zero? They wouldn't know, of course, until after you had departed the flight. If it wasn't issued in your name, there would be nothing to associate to you, unless they enter your seat number, and even then it is often possible to switch seats. There will be some loss on this, but I guess AA figures it will be less than their FAs steal from them now. Like I said, interesting.
May 31, 2009, 10:30 am
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Does this change the procedures of selling earphones? Typically on flights I've been on, the FA walks through the main cabin with nothing but a bunch of earphones in their cupped hands. Will they be now walking through with earphones in one hand and card machine in the other, or selling earphones from the cart, or what?
May 31, 2009, 10:32 am
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So that brings up the question, on GoGo-equipped flights, can you pay for the Boston Market sandwich with PayPal?
May 31, 2009, 9:43 pm
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Just thought about unaccompied minors whose parents give them cash for bob. They are out of luck. I hope that aa somehow makes the no cash policy known when an unaccompanied minor reservation and/or fee is collected.
Just thought about unaccompied minors whose parents give them cash for bob. They are out of luck. I hope that aa somehow makes the no cash policy known when an unaccompanied minor reservation and/or fee is collected.
May 31, 2009, 10:09 pm
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Just thought about unaccompied minors whose parents give them cash for bob. They are out of luck. I hope that aa somehow makes the no cash policy known when an unaccompanied minor reservation and/or fee is collected.
Just thought about unaccompied minors whose parents give them cash for bob. They are out of luck. I hope that aa somehow makes the no cash policy known when an unaccompanied minor reservation and/or fee is collected.
Jun 1, 2009, 7:59 am
#74
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On AA#1512 from DFW to DCA yesterday (May 31), one of the F/A's made a PA announcement that we were flying on the last day they'd accept cash for drinks, headsets, etc. and that starting June 1 plastic only was the rule.
Jun 1, 2009, 9:19 am
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Yes, they will. As was confirmed in the second post of this thread.