AA downgrading GRU?
May 14, 2015, 4:50 pm
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AA downgrading GRU?
Looks like AA is downgrading GRU, bringing back the 777-200 (not the refurbished) to MIA-GRU. I booked flight 930 on Aug 12th and the seat map shows the old 777-200 layout.
Anyone knows if this is permanent and when the acft change started/starts?
Anyone knows if this is permanent and when the acft change started/starts?
May 14, 2015, 4:58 pm
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Is it being sold as a 2 or 3 cabin flight?
May 14, 2015, 5:18 pm
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It seems to just be a handful of 772 frequencies being sold as 3 class, for example 233 on 7/21 and 7/22. I'd assume it's just another symptom of AA's ongoing large wide-body shortage, they're receiving their last 77Ws now, but still will have trouble operating the current routes with maintenance issues.
May 14, 2015, 5:39 pm
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It seems to just be a handful of 772 frequencies being sold as 3 class, for example 233 on 7/21 and 7/22. I'd assume it's just another symptom of AA's ongoing large wide-body shortage, they're receiving their last 77Ws now, but still will have trouble operating the current routes with maintenance issues.
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May 14, 2015, 6:31 pm
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When's the last time AA sold a 3 class 772 as 2 class on an international route? Even the one place holding for a 788 on DFW-PEK is/was sold as 3 class. The 772 subs on 77W routes, 763 subs on 772 routes and frequent >12 hour delays are signs of a shortage. It's been going on for months and seems to be reaching into the fall schedule.
May 14, 2015, 6:45 pm
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When's the last time AA sold a 3 class 772 as 2 class on an international route? Even the one place holding for a 788 on DFW-PEK is/was sold as 3 class. The 772 subs on 77W routes, 763 subs on 772 routes and frequent >12 hour delays are signs of a shortage. It's been going on for months and seems to be reaching into the fall schedule.
May 14, 2015, 11:23 pm
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May 14, 2015, 11:55 pm
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That's a pre-merger deployment on a route imminently switching to a 788. It's tough to switch the reservation system to 3 class when the F cabin is already occupied by J pax. You'll notice the 772s only become available for the routes this thread is about after the 788s replace them on PEK and EZE.
May 15, 2015, 12:24 am
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It seems to just be a handful of 772 frequencies being sold as 3 class, for example 233 on 7/21 and 7/22. I'd assume it's just another symptom of AA's ongoing large wide-body shortage, they're receiving their last 77Ws now, but still will have trouble operating the current routes with maintenance issues.
May 15, 2015, 12:50 am
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For the last few months, the larger the plane the greater AA's shortage has been. AA added routes to PEK and PVG before they had spare planes available for a comfortable maintenance margin and peak summer schedules/maintenance events seem to be keeping them in the hole. By the end of the year AA plans to retire a significant number of narrowbodies and receive more 788s, which may turn the shortage on its head.
May 15, 2015, 3:11 am
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That's a pre-merger deployment on a route imminently switching to a 788. It's tough to switch the reservation system to 3 class when the F cabin is already occupied by J pax. You'll notice the 772s only become available for the routes this thread is about after the 788s replace them on PEK and EZE.
May 15, 2015, 8:58 am
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Maybe it just means they optimizing planning flexibility given that there's three 777 types floating around at the moment?
May 15, 2015, 11:22 am
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There's no shortage of AA widebody aircraft.
May 15, 2015, 11:49 am
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I agree completely. In the past three years, AA has added 17 new 777s and five new 787s, retired zero 777s and has retired just two 763s. Against that, AA has added some new longhaul routes, but not so many as to soak up all of the new capacity that's been purchased/leased.
There is a minor, temporary, annoying shortage of reconfigured 777s with the new all-aisle-access lie-flat seating, but there is no evidence of a shortage of longhaul widebody aircraft at AA.
With the economic problems in Argentina and Brazil and Europe, and maybe a drastically slowing economy in China, AA may find itself with an even larger (temporary) surplus of widebody aircraft.
There is a minor, temporary, annoying shortage of reconfigured 777s with the new all-aisle-access lie-flat seating, but there is no evidence of a shortage of longhaul widebody aircraft at AA.
With the economic problems in Argentina and Brazil and Europe, and maybe a drastically slowing economy in China, AA may find itself with an even larger (temporary) surplus of widebody aircraft.