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Free 24 hr. Hold For Reservations Made Within 7 Days Of Travel No Longer Offered


Note: AA no longer refunds tickets purchased within the seven days of flight time frame when one cancels within 24 hours, as of 12 June 2015.

Please follow that topic / policy here: AA No more Refunds within 24 hours if booked inside 7 day window

The 24-hour reservation requirement is mandated by the Department of Transportation’s consumer rule “Enhancing Airline Passenger Protections” (14 CFR 259.5(b)(4), 76 Fed. Reg. 23110, 23166, Apr. 25, 2011) and applies to all reservations made seven days or more prior to the flight’s scheduled departure time.
A 24 hour cancellation policy is called for by USDOT regulations. American Airlines currently meets the requirement by offering 24 hour hold.

1) Allowing one to "hold" a booking for 24 hours rather than purchase immediately. Unfortunately, some may not know this and purchase thinking they can cancel within 24 hours free of fees or cost.

Q: How do I "Hold" a reservation?
A: You may place your reservation on hold for 24 hours if you are booking your reservation seven or more days prior to departure. When you make a reservation on aa.com for American Airlines flights, including American flights operated by codeshare partners, look for the “Free 24 hour hold” option on the “Review and Pay” page during the booking process.

AA Reservations FAQ - Link
Hold Your Reservation On aa.com (Link)

As a convenience for your travel planning, aa.com offers hold* options during booking. You may place your reservation on hold for up to 24 hours for free, or you may pay to place your reservation on hold for an extended time period. When you make a reservation on aa.com for American Airlines flights, including American flights operated by codeshare partners, look for the "Hold" option on the "Review and Pay" page during the booking process.

Hold your reservation for 24 hours or more
* Did you find a good fare, but need more time? Hold your trip.
Here's how it works:
* All holds are free for the first 24 hours.
* If you choose to hold longer, you’ll be charged after 24 hours.
* Hold charges are non-refundable.
* When you’re ready, go to the confirmation email or My Trips to pay for or cancel your trip.
* Be sure to pay with a credit card from the same country you used to hold your trip or your fare may change.
Once you select the Hold option, the Free Hold and Extended Hold offers will display:

Book your flight now!

* Actual hold period depends on fare rules. Some fares require purchase by a specific time.
2) If one is booking for travel within seven days, there is no "hold" option given during the booking process.. The DOT does not require a refund for cancelation within 24 hours of purchase, nor a 24 hour hold. AA used to allow refunds within 24 hours of booking within the seven day purchase to flight time frame; it no longer does so as of 12 June 2014.

Link to PDF USDOT "Guidance on the 24-Hour Reservation Requirement"

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Old Mar 26, 2014, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by skunker
There is no lending of money. The hold is placed prior to entering payment information.
I think the post was referring to people buying refundable tickets to hold seats . Then when they asked for a refund those biz or first seats would open up. This is something discussed in another thread( but I don't know how to link it, sorry)
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 11:14 am
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major cut...
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Fitch7600, I am of the same opinion -- except I expect the money amounts will be higher.



I book most of my tickets within 7 days of departure. This month, all my own flight tickets have been purchased within a day of start of trip on the ticket.

I hope the DOT revises the rule to cover even same day ticket bookings.
Same here. I usually book my tickets 24 hours prior to departure. This sucks!
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 11:19 am
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These companies should get creative. I would pay $50 (maybe $100) yearly to allow me to hold reservations for 24 prior to 7 days. They should adding payable features to your aadvantage account.

Other things like a non refundable $500 unlimited change fee package for the year. Use it or lose it kind of thing.

How about $125 unlimited drinks in coach use ir or lose it?
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 11:21 am
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If "free" holds are causing too much spoilage, I wonder if switching to a UA-style policy (pay now, then refund within 24 hours) would reduce some of the speculative holds. For all of the issues with UA, this actually works pretty well; there's no stated close-in restriction, and the cancel/refund can be done online and is actually refunded quickly IME.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by jmastron
If "free" holds are causing too much spoilage...
That was sheer, foundation-less speculation here, that that is the cause of this change, either in part or in full.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 11:39 am
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I keep trying to get people to refer to the new airline as "USdbaAA"...
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 11:41 am
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From a pure revenue standpoint, being able to collect more change fees within 7 days must be orders of magnitude larger than any "inventory spoilage" caused by an infinitesimally small fraction of customers.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by JohnAx
I keep trying to get people to refer to the new airline as "USdbaAA"...
I'm starting to grow so weary of this line. It's a merged airline, done, game over, get over it.

In the current economic environment, if you don't believe that "AAdbaAA" would be capable and willing of making similar business decisions and cutting benefits, exactly as United and Delta are doing, you are absolutely fooling yourself.

In fact there is a case to made that they may have played "follow the leader" even faster if they had not merged and merely mimicked several of UA/Delta decisions (e.g. revenue based elite qualification, etc.) much sooner, but that they have throttled back some of that change purely because of the chaos of the merger.

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Old Mar 26, 2014, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by scubadu
I'm starting to grow so weary of this line. It's a merged airline, done, game over, get over it.

In the current economic environment, if you don't believe that "AAdbaAA" would be capable and willing of making similar business decisions and cutting benefits, exactly as United and Delta are doing, you are absolutely fooling yourself.

In fact there is a case to made that they may have played "follow the leader" even faster if they had not merged and merely mimicked several of UA/Delta decisions (e.g. revenue based elite qualification, etc.) much sooner, but that they have throttled back some of that change purely because of the chaos of the merger.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 1:17 pm
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I figured out how to use my company booking tool to create an AA reservation that, pursuant to our TAs contract, allows holding until midnight the following day. I am trying this today, highly likely to purchase, normally just would buy refundable tickets but since the savings here is over $1k I figure I'll try it while I sort my schedule over the next 24 hours. Will be interesting to see if my upgrades clear, the window opens in a few hours.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by stephem
I figured out how to use my company booking tool to create an AA reservation that, pursuant to our TAs contract, allows holding until midnight the following day. I am trying this today, highly likely to purchase, normally just would buy refundable tickets but since the savings here is over $1k I figure I'll try it while I sort my schedule over the next 24 hours. Will be interesting to see if my upgrades clear, the window opens in a few hours.
Same here. But not sure if this actually holds the fare. Does it?
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by AA Flyer
As I previously stated.....The new policy is not as much of a concern to me (though I disagree with this as a concept and it will, from time to time, cause me an inconvenience). what is more concerning to me is the fact that AA is not communicating any of these changes to us, their most frequent flyers. Especially of note (to me) was the recent change to choice essential and choice plus bundles....... which (to my knowledge) was never announced...... nor (to my knowledge) was any communication attempt made to inform us (their most frequent fliers) of this change.

Change, change, change.......
+1. I couldn't agree with you more. I rely heavily on getting updates on AA policies from FT, because I don't trust I'll get it communicated to me by AA. I don't like being surprised when I've spent time planning and counted on something being true, only for it to have changed without notice.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 1:36 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyMeToTheLooneyBin
+1. I couldn't agree with you more. I rely heavily on getting updates on AA policies from FT, because I don't trust I'll get it communicated to me by AA. I don't like being surprised when I've spent time planning and counted on something being true, only for it to have changed without notice.
Yep. It's almost as if this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14202343-post10.html

never really panned out
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Yep. It's almost as if this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14202343-post10.html

never really panned out
Haha. I remember when they used to post here. Wait. I can't! It was too long ago.
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