Jan 28, 2014, 12:14 am
Last edit by: JDiver
oneworld / AA Explorer award with AA Miles (discuss, questions) [ENDED 8 APR 2014]
N.B. new oneworld/AA Explorer awards are no longer available as of the end of the day on April 7th, 2014.
Existing awards will be honored.
This thread is ONLY to inquire or add about existing oneworld Explorer awards; to comment on the loss of this booking option, please follow the discussion on:
Oneworld Explorer Awards Eliminated -- Effective Immediately [8 Apr 2014]
See the first post, below, for the rules that prevailed through 7 April 2014 and apply to those who booked Explorer awards prior to the end of these useful award tickets.
oneworld / AA Explorer award with AA Miles (discuss, questions) [ENDED 8 APR 2014]
Jul 17, 2013, 9:43 pm
#1351
Join Date: Jun 2008
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I am sure plenty of changes were made for the explorer awards in case of involuntary disruption.
But for voluntary changes in advance of travel, the rules are strict and it is virtually impossible to make routing changes. If your award is wholly unused and availability exists on all segments, you should just cancel and rebook the whole award.
But for voluntary changes in advance of travel, the rules are strict and it is virtually impossible to make routing changes. If your award is wholly unused and availability exists on all segments, you should just cancel and rebook the whole award.
Of course we're talking about an exception to the exception of an exception and one very special AAgent.
But.. still..
So... In the history of the world, the routing has been changed for "emergencies"?
Jul 17, 2013, 10:03 pm
#1352
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
Yes. Thanks. As written in the OP, "change the routing after the trip has started? " is our current situation.
Of course we're talking about an exception to the exception of an exception and one very special AAgent.
But.. still..
So... In the history of the world, the routing has been changed for "emergencies"?
Of course we're talking about an exception to the exception of an exception and one very special AAgent.
But.. still..
So... In the history of the world, the routing has been changed for "emergencies"?
But if you are talking about voluntary changes in advance, that is not going to be possible. AA plays very strictly by the rules, and if you somehow managed to get an agent to make the change for you, you can expect that the ticketing desk will reject it.
Jul 17, 2013, 10:14 pm
#1353
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
Posts: 1,844
Of course. Routing can be changed if you show up to the airport and the airline canceled the flight. At that point, they need to get you to the next stopover, and it doesn't matter if the original routing is in NRT, HKG or some other place. They will rebook you on a viable routing to get you to your destination.
But if you are talking about voluntary changes in advance, that is not going to be possible. AA plays very strictly by the rules, and if you somehow managed to get an agent to make the change for you, you can expect that the ticketing desk will reject it.
But if you are talking about voluntary changes in advance, that is not going to be possible. AA plays very strictly by the rules, and if you somehow managed to get an agent to make the change for you, you can expect that the ticketing desk will reject it.
I think the operative word I'm looking for here is massive "manual override."
Jul 18, 2013, 11:22 am
#1354
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,203
AA
(based on two instances, it seems that they are treating Dragon and Cathy as same airline)
You are right about other comment.
Actual booking of the ticket did not take much time (except when tickiting desk was too busy to approve final rouuting and reservation hold expired in the mean time). Searching for seat availibility using various engines (JAL, Quantas, BA) several times a day for various possible roiting permutations did take many many hours over 3-4 weeks.
(based on two instances, it seems that they are treating Dragon and Cathy as same airline)
You are right about other comment.
Actual booking of the ticket did not take much time (except when tickiting desk was too busy to approve final rouuting and reservation hold expired in the mean time). Searching for seat availibility using various engines (JAL, Quantas, BA) several times a day for various possible roiting permutations did take many many hours over 3-4 weeks.
Last edited by desi; Jul 18, 2013 at 11:30 am
Jul 18, 2013, 12:22 pm
#1355
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Has anyone recently booked a J award, but booked it with a leg in Y due to lack of availability, but planning to change the dates to a later date where there is award availability in J? I can't find any recent references, but the OP of this newer thread has a 7-year old post saying this is possible. I just want to get the award booked now, before availability on the other legs potentially disappears.
Jul 18, 2013, 1:12 pm
#1356
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 254
Has anyone recently booked a J award, but booked it with a leg in Y due to lack of availability, but planning to change the dates to a later date where there is award availability in J? I can't find any recent references, but the OP of this newer thread has a 7-year old post saying this is possible. I just want to get the award booked now, before availability on the other legs potentially disappears.
I currently have an open Explorer where I booked one flight in Y and then switched it to J when it became available (which it thankfully did). I also have another segment of that Explorer currently booked in J on a day that I would prefer not to fly, hoping that inventory will open up the day that I do actually want to fly.
Thanks
Jul 18, 2013, 1:16 pm
#1357
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I'm not sure what you are asking exactly, but I'll give it a go:
I currently have an open Explorer where I booked one flight in Y and then switched it to J when it became available (which it thankfully did). I also have another segment of that Explorer currently booked in J on a day that I would prefer not to fly, hoping that inventory will open up the day that I do actually want to fly.
Thanks
I currently have an open Explorer where I booked one flight in Y and then switched it to J when it became available (which it thankfully did). I also have another segment of that Explorer currently booked in J on a day that I would prefer not to fly, hoping that inventory will open up the day that I do actually want to fly.
Thanks
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Jul 19, 2013, 2:04 pm
#1358
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 372
Will AA allow me to hold ticket if I don't have sufficient miles in my account? I'm short of 30k miles, I initiated a transfer few days ago from SPG->AA and based on my experience, it should be(no guarantees, of course) transferred to my AA account before the 5 day hold expires.
Jul 19, 2013, 5:23 pm
#1359
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Will AA allow me to hold ticket if I don't have sufficient miles in my account? I'm short of 30k miles, I initiated a transfer few days ago from SPG->AA and based on my experience, it should be(no guarantees, of course) transferred to my AA account before the 5 day hold expires.
Jul 19, 2013, 6:49 pm
#1360
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 372
That's great^ , thank you! I will post my itinerary/routing as soon as it is ticketed.
Jul 21, 2013, 4:04 pm
#1361
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,203
stopover - connection revisited again
Any recent experince for anyone where stopover of more than 24 hours was allowed to be modified into a connection (after ticketing or even after trip has started)?
(was told by friend yesterday that he was allowed to cut three day stay in BKK in 3 hour connection which surprised me)
(was told by friend yesterday that he was allowed to cut three day stay in BKK in 3 hour connection which surprised me)
Jul 21, 2013, 4:08 pm
#1362
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Any recent experince for anyone where stopover of more than 24 hours was allowed to be modified into a connection (after ticketing or even after trip has started)?
(was told by friend yesterday that he was allowed to cut three day stay in BKK in 3 hour connection which surprised me)
(was told by friend yesterday that he was allowed to cut three day stay in BKK in 3 hour connection which surprised me)
Jul 21, 2013, 6:03 pm
#1363
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Posts: 4,861
That is incorrect. This is why a person can have 2 connections plus 1 stopover in a particular place, not 3 connections.
Jul 21, 2013, 8:28 pm
#1364
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,203
However, when there is one and only one transit through a city anbd taxes related to stopover are already paid, AA seems allows pax to change stopover into connection (but not vice versa). However, we need to collect enough actual evidence from other FTer (either confirminvg its allowance or disallowance and then update the first post sticky accordingly).
Jul 21, 2013, 11:47 pm
#1365
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That is correct -- a stopover designation on a ticket permits (but does not require) a stopover, while a connection does not allow a stopover (as it has a maximum).