AA 21 JFK-LAX: Return to gate because of one passenger too many on board
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AA 21 JFK-LAX: Return to gate because of one passenger too many on board
Reporting a just very unusual occurrence on flight AA 21 2/15/12. Plane leaves gate on time. Halfway to the runway, the captain announces, " Unfortunately we have to return to the gate, because we have one too many passenger on board"
Nothing looks out of the ordinary, after getting to the gate very unhappy looking captain comes out of cockpit. Then GA comes on board and after huddling for 5 minutes with the crew, rushes all the way to the back of the aircraft, asking everybody to show boarding pass. Commotion ensues, I am too far away to see what was really going on. Two male passenger leave the plane and we are on the way again.
One fellow passenger surmised, that someone tried to bring a 6 year old child on board as a "lap infant". Unfortunately, it is impossible to verify that. The FA told me, when asked, that the computers went down during the boarding process, which I suppose is going to be the party line.
I highly doubt that, because five minutes before departure, a fellow passenger was handed a boarding pass to J.
Anyway to find out, what was the real story?
I am just wondering, with all the security and TSA, it is a bit scary, when someone not on the manifest can get on board.
Nothing looks out of the ordinary, after getting to the gate very unhappy looking captain comes out of cockpit. Then GA comes on board and after huddling for 5 minutes with the crew, rushes all the way to the back of the aircraft, asking everybody to show boarding pass. Commotion ensues, I am too far away to see what was really going on. Two male passenger leave the plane and we are on the way again.
One fellow passenger surmised, that someone tried to bring a 6 year old child on board as a "lap infant". Unfortunately, it is impossible to verify that. The FA told me, when asked, that the computers went down during the boarding process, which I suppose is going to be the party line.
I highly doubt that, because five minutes before departure, a fellow passenger was handed a boarding pass to J.
Anyway to find out, what was the real story?
I am just wondering, with all the security and TSA, it is a bit scary, when someone not on the manifest can get on board.
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Without more facts, difficult to determine what happened. Perhaps the plane was weight-restricted and the two were nonrevs who were mistakenly boarded?
I don't see anything scary about it. Odds are they went thru the same TSA checkpoint as everyone else.
I don't see anything scary about it. Odds are they went thru the same TSA checkpoint as everyone else.
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Nothing scary about it. As FWAAA notes, the passenger would have been screened either way, and the likelihood of a "malicious person" (whatever that means) just happening to hit this loophole is remote.
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If you saw 2 passengers get off then there was 1 too many on the aircraft. The flight finally left with 167 out of 168 seats occupied. It seems that one person that got on the flight didn't have their boarding pass scanned, creating a seat dupe that wasn't discovered until the flight was moving. As has been pointed out, everyone was screened so nothing concerning there. At least it wasn't like the PIA flight where the crew decided to have 2 passengers sit in the lav for the flight because the rest of the seats were full! ( http://news.hamaraphotos.com/ians/pi...o-instead.html )
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Someone needs to tell Ada Quonsett that her act is getting really old
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If you saw 2 passengers get off then there was 1 too many on the aircraft. The flight finally left with 167 out of 168 seats occupied. It seems that one person that got on the flight didn't have their boarding pass scanned, creating a seat dupe that wasn't discovered until the flight was moving. As has been pointed out, everyone was screened so nothing concerning there. At least it wasn't like the PIA flight where the crew decided to have 2 passengers sit in the lav for the flight because the rest of the seats were full! ( http://news.hamaraphotos.com/ians/pi...o-instead.html )
As for the PIA lavatory seating story, some folks might prefer that to
coach.
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Please explain more
After reading this, I am still confused.
Were those two on the WRONG flight or were they on the CORRECT flight. If they were on the correct flight then where was the second pax sitting? On a FA seat? Was he standing?
Were those two on the WRONG flight or were they on the CORRECT flight. If they were on the correct flight then where was the second pax sitting? On a FA seat? Was he standing?
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Everybody is confused, due to the paucity of information. That's what makes a great speculative thread. All guesses are equally valid, as there are no facts to contradict any guess.
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Ada Quonsett indeed - kind of like the clarity of what actually happened on this aircraft.
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Despite TSA's gross incompetence, everyone on the plane passed through the "security" checkpoint. Who cares, other than revenue management, whether there are extra or missing people on the plane?
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In 2006 or 2007 I was able to board an AA flight to Orlando I think from ORD, however I should have boarded at the nearby gate for the AA flight to Jacksonville. I didn't realize until I couldn't locate my bags and the nice lady at lost baggage told me my bags were safely where they belong, in Jacksonville. I forget now if I got miles for JAX or MCO trip??