AA policy on Y using J restroom domestic?
Feb 10, 2012, 12:32 pm
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AA basically invites a free for all by not even trying.
Contrast that with DL where almost always the FA announces "the F lav is for F pax".
Contrast that with DL where almost always the FA announces "the F lav is for F pax".
Feb 10, 2012, 12:34 pm
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Last week MSY - ORD 738 plane 15 minutes into flight really overweight (I mean really) coach passenger came up to the First Class Bathroom and promptly messed it up. He was the only one to use it and when I opened the door there was something on the floor. Yikes.
Flight attendants were a little peeved to half to clean up after him. I think they should keep First/Coach seperate if they can.
On three class flights I see people using J bathrooms all the time... Especially since they are usually right in front of coach partition. Since they are behind the business seating I see no problem, especially during peak times (after the in-flight movie).
Flight attendants were a little peeved to half to clean up after him. I think they should keep First/Coach seperate if they can.
On three class flights I see people using J bathrooms all the time... Especially since they are usually right in front of coach partition. Since they are behind the business seating I see no problem, especially during peak times (after the in-flight movie).
- dirty
and because only Y passengers
- sh$t on the floor
- mess the restrooms
But you are missing on some arguments. Please add to your list:
- they carry BSE
- they carry foot-and-mouth disease
Interesting to say the least... kinda reminds me of the movie Titanic....
Feb 10, 2012, 12:40 pm
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So what you are saying is that Y pax should go to Y bathroom because they are:
- dirty
and because only Y passengers
- sh$t on the floor
- mess the restrooms
But you are missing on some arguments. Please add to your list:
- they carry BSE
- they carry foot-and-mouth disease
- dirty
and because only Y passengers
- sh$t on the floor
- mess the restrooms
But you are missing on some arguments. Please add to your list:
- they carry BSE
- they carry foot-and-mouth disease
Feb 10, 2012, 1:43 pm
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Feb 10, 2012, 2:59 pm
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In practice, the F FA will usually push the line of people waiting for the F lav back to the curtain/bulkhead so that people don't interfere with F service and don't lean on F seats (my personal pet peeve).
Feb 10, 2012, 3:03 pm
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Mar 26, 2012, 6:22 am
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AA should adopt this policy
AA should restrict lav use to ones ticketed cabin.^
Mar 26, 2012, 6:40 am
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They should just give the Y's a coffee can and tree bark to wipe. Really? How many of us REALLY pay for an F ticket? Company purchase doesnt count. I bet half of em going up are EXP or PLT anyway.
Mar 26, 2012, 7:08 am
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As one can see based upon the number of posts on this thread its been a hot topic of conversation and opinion.
As an EXP I'll say this. Normally the service in F is more involved than Y (FAs carrying trays of drinks and trays of food). So I and from I have observed most F paxs try to stay seated while the service is being performed giving the FA(s) ample room to move around unimpeded. Also not to mention that if you are in a window seat do you want your poor seatmate to move his or her drinks/food tray so that you can it to use the lav.
The result is that after the service there is normally a big demand for the often single lav from F paxs alone. I know I've had to wait a good 15 minutes or more just to have a chance to use the lav along with my fellow F paxs alone.
As an EXP I'll say this. Normally the service in F is more involved than Y (FAs carrying trays of drinks and trays of food). So I and from I have observed most F paxs try to stay seated while the service is being performed giving the FA(s) ample room to move around unimpeded. Also not to mention that if you are in a window seat do you want your poor seatmate to move his or her drinks/food tray so that you can it to use the lav.
The result is that after the service there is normally a big demand for the often single lav from F paxs alone. I know I've had to wait a good 15 minutes or more just to have a chance to use the lav along with my fellow F paxs alone.
Mar 26, 2012, 9:38 am
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This has been a major issue on the Super 80's for years and years. When the beverage cart is in the line in economy, Y pax are directed forward to use the lav in the front. Period.
The crowding in the back by the lavs is also a dislike of the FA's in the economy class of service.
It is a no win situation.
It is almost as bad (another can of worms being opened) when the FA's do not prevent economy passengers from using the overhead bins at the front of the aircraft. My pet hate!
The crowding in the back by the lavs is also a dislike of the FA's in the economy class of service.
It is a no win situation.
It is almost as bad (another can of worms being opened) when the FA's do not prevent economy passengers from using the overhead bins at the front of the aircraft. My pet hate!
Mar 26, 2012, 11:07 am
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Mar 26, 2012, 1:03 pm
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I think it is outrageous that Y pax use the premium lavs--or for that matter put their carry-ons into the F cabin overheads. The issue is simply that premium pax have paid for their space and that includes overheads and lavs.
We forget that one advantage of the premium cabin is not having to wait very long for access to the lav. If use is limited to premium pax, then it is less likely to be in use when a premium pax wants access (ratio of seats to lavs). That advantage is completely lost when the lav access is opened up to Y.
If you fly Y your seat is smaller, there are more seats per overhead and more seats per lav. Those unfavorable parameters reflect lower ticket price.
I fly mainly international and on foreign carriers use of lav in ticketed cabin is rigidly enforced. I cannot understand why AA varies from this.
We forget that one advantage of the premium cabin is not having to wait very long for access to the lav. If use is limited to premium pax, then it is less likely to be in use when a premium pax wants access (ratio of seats to lavs). That advantage is completely lost when the lav access is opened up to Y.
If you fly Y your seat is smaller, there are more seats per overhead and more seats per lav. Those unfavorable parameters reflect lower ticket price.
I fly mainly international and on foreign carriers use of lav in ticketed cabin is rigidly enforced. I cannot understand why AA varies from this.
Mar 26, 2012, 2:11 pm
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Mar 26, 2012, 7:59 pm
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Y passengers should stay in Y until they have to travel thru the cabin to disembark. I don't care how elitist that sounds many of us pay a lot extra to travel in premium cabins and along with that comes sone expected bonuses. Other airlines enforce keeping the Y passengers out. I don't see why AA can't do the same.
Mar 26, 2012, 8:19 pm
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This question keeps coming up.... Does NO ONE else remember the AA press release from 2-3 years ago stating that AA was opening ALL lavs to ALL pax, regardless of ticketed cabin? (Sole exception - INBOUND INTL flights to the U.S. - pax must stay in their ticketed cabin.) Of course, crew MAY opt to designate your cabin only on any flight, but that is on a flight-by-flight basis - CORPORATE policy allows cross-cabin lav use. No, I can no longer find the link to the release, but it sure as heck happened. But, I also can NOT find a link rescinding it, or a policy stating you must use the lav in your cabin (except inbound INTL.)