Originally Posted by sts603
(Post 20233906)
What would either of those places offer?
LAS is an international destination, lots of opportunity for leisure and business flights to secondary markets. For example - we live in SAN area, traveling family and clients visiting LAS are surprised to learn that there are no nonstop flights on any major alliance carriers. Talking again from memory, could be wrong: US made money in PIT, local economy is strong, governmental agencies are offering significant incentives to attract one or more carriers. |
Originally Posted by diver858
(Post 20234488)
Can't cite statistics, but the LAS economy is back, WN is the only major carrier with any significant presence (other than Allegiant, Spirit), is enjoying some premium fares, ripe for competition.
LAS is an international destination, lots of opportunity for leisure and business flights to secondary markets. For example - we live in SAN area, traveling family and clients visiting LAS are surprised to learn that there are no nonstop flights on any major alliance carriers. Talking again from memory, could be wrong: US made money in PIT, local economy is strong, governmental agencies are offering significant incentives to attract one or more carriers. |
the int'l J seat on all of US's international aircraft except the int'l 757s is essentially equivalent to what AA just put in the AA 77W and is thus of course ahead of AAs int'l 772, 763 and 757 J product. |
Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
(Post 20234521)
I think it is more likely the combined airline would downsize LGA, LAX and JFK than add hubs. PIT and LAS just make no sense. DFW and MIA might get reduced a lot too.
And why would AA reduce its presence that it has worked hard to establish/maintain in the two most lucrative US travel markets (NYC and LAX) be reduced? |
Originally Posted by colmc
(Post 20234595)
You've not been on a US 762 lately, have you ;)
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Originally Posted by diver858
(Post 20234488)
Can't cite statistics, but the LAS economy is back, WN is the only major carrier with any significant presence (other than Allegiant, Spirit), is enjoying some premium fares, ripe for competition.
LAS is an international destination, lots of opportunity for leisure and business flights to secondary markets. For example - we live in SAN area, traveling family and clients visiting LAS are surprised to learn that there are no nonstop flights on any major alliance carriers. |
Originally Posted by PBIGuy
(Post 20234275)
As someone who has flown almost exclusive Star, and doesn't live in a hub for any airline, it's going to come down to how the FF program is structured. I fly 50k a year personal and have about a 90% upgrade on US - that's no miles, no dollars...just a free seat up front. If the new FF system is structured so that the upgrades diminish significantly, or cost, then there's not a lot of difference to me between the new AA and the new UA, in terms of what's important to me (sitting up front for free) and domestic route structure. Star has a better network in Canada, similar options to Asia, and no BA-taxes to Europe.
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The US 762 product is a lie flat, herringbone suite. |
Originally Posted by colmc
(Post 20234660)
It isn't the herringbone. It's 2-2-2, 170 degree recline. Pretty old school, and not all that comfortable IMHO. The A330's are the new herringbone product.
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Originally Posted by sts603
(Post 20234608)
The US 762 product is a lie flat, herringbone suite. Yes, they are old aircraft that are certainly sub par to a 777. But the hard product in J is better than AA NGBC.
http://www.usairways.com/en-US/trave...nvoyclass.html Anyway, those don't matter much as the 762s will likely be retired during 2013 and 2014 as the new A330-200s are delivered to US. |
This is probably my lack of industry knowledge showing but why is speculation of any new asian routes being narrowed down to Tokyo, PEK and possibly HKG? Wouldn't it be more logical to expand by creaing a service that isn't currently supplied by a partner, like a service to SIN for example? That's a location that, I'm guessing, a lot of US flyers use *A to get to so it would seem to make sense.
(I'm aware that Malaysian will offer a SIN service via KUL but I was hoping for a direct flight). |
Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
(Post 20234521)
I think it is more likely the combined airline would downsize LGA, LAX and JFK than add hubs. PIT and LAS just make no sense. DFW and MIA might get reduced a lot too.
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
(Post 20234521)
I think it is more likely the combined airline would downsize LGA, LAX and JFK than add hubs. PIT and LAS just make no sense. DFW and MIA might get reduced a lot too.
If Parker downsizes LGA, LAX and JFK, that would be proof that he doesn't want to run an airline that caters to business travelers. |
Originally Posted by Stripy
(Post 20234695)
This is probably my lack of industry knowledge showing but why is speculation of any new asian routes being narrowed down to Tokyo, PEK and possibly HKG? Wouldn't it be more logical to expand by creaing a service that isn't currently supplied by a partner, like a service to SIN for example? That's a location that, I'm guessing, a lot of US flyers use *A to get to so it would seem to make sense.
(I'm aware that Malaysian will offer a SIN service via KUL but I was hoping for a direct flight). Even Thai stops along the way between BKK and LAX. I doubt that any USA gateway has enough O&D to fill a plane to SIN or BKK (without requiring connecting passengers), so if you're going to have to connect somewhere along the way, why not NRT? |
Originally Posted by FWAAA
(Post 20234736)
It is very unlikely that any airline (other than SQ) will ever attempt a nonstop to SIN. Fuel prices are simply too high. And don't most SQ flights stop at NRT along the way?
Even Thai stops along the way between BKK and LAX. I doubt that any USA gateway has enough O&D to fill a plane to SIN or BKK (without requiring connecting passengers), so if you're going to have to connect somewhere along the way, why not NRT? |
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