Feb 14, 2013, 9:50 am
Last edit by: JDiver
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The AA - US merger was approved by AMR creditors and the boards of directors of both airlines on 13 Feb 2013, and announced the 14th.
There is no further speculation about whether the merger will occur; all that is pending is approval from the bankruptcy court and the regulatory authorities.
American Airlines and US Airways approve merger: just the facts, please outlines the facts we know;
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement Discussion (consolidated) is the thread for discussion of the announced merger.
The AA - US merger was approved by AMR creditors and the boards of directors of both airlines on 13 Feb 2013, and announced the 14th.
There is no further speculation about whether the merger will occur; all that is pending is approval from the bankruptcy court and the regulatory authorities.
American Airlines and US Airways approve merger: just the facts, please outlines the facts we know;
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement Discussion (consolidated) is the thread for discussion of the announced merger.
ARCHIVE: US LCC & AMR / AA Takeover / merger Rumors and Discussion (consolidated)
Jul 30, 2012, 10:41 pm
#1591
Join Date: Jan 2012
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And you know it.
Jul 31, 2012, 3:56 am
#1592
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AA LT Plat, UA 1k/1mm+, National EE, IC Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 2,605
It doesn't count because nobody wants to pay for full Y/B. You might as well pay for F most of the time at that point. US Airways/Delta/United all give upgrades on any fare, and there is a significant difference between free on any flight and "free" on a $1000 ticket.
And you know it.
And you know it.
Most of us UA flyers would LOVE t go back to th sticker system....
Jul 31, 2012, 5:14 am
#1593
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: BNA and TPA
Programs: AA-EXP, UA, WN, DL- zilch by choice, IHG-Diamond, Marriott-Gold, Hilton Gold,
Posts: 566
Jul 31, 2012, 5:25 am
#1594
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro, Hyatt Globalist, Amex Plat
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Sorry, but this is still incorrect. Gold and Plats in fact DO receive unlimited complimentary upgrades. They just need to purchase Y or B fares (full-fare Economy) if they want to have unlimited complimentary upgrades.
If they choose to purchase discount fares, they then must use stickers (that they can earn, purchase, or exchange from miles).
Okay?
If they choose to purchase discount fares, they then must use stickers (that they can earn, purchase, or exchange from miles).
Okay?
argue semantics.
I had generally agreed with your previous clarification, but you always seem to want to get the inch and take it a mile...
Regards
Jul 31, 2012, 5:46 am
#1595
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: PIT
Programs: PriorityClub Platinum, Marriott Rewards Gold, AAdvantage Gold
Posts: 121
I've has amazon success with star award bookings on us. Just booked 2 rt biz tickets to Tokyo on nrt for 180k and 160 bucks. Also just booked biz to Berlin on lh new 748 for next week. 100k miles and 100 bucks. I dont see how anybody thinks one world is better that star.
Jul 31, 2012, 7:24 am
#1596
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Routes like this (AA hub to US hub) would seem to be very high risk for big post-merger price increases. My most common city pair is DFW-CLT, and I'm worried.
We can all speculate about post-merger frequent flyer programs, elite levels, service standards, and how differences between the to airlines get resolved, but at this point, that's all it is: speculation.
But it's a near-certainty that if a route goes from having two airlines offering nonstop service to having only one, prices will increase.
We can all speculate about post-merger frequent flyer programs, elite levels, service standards, and how differences between the to airlines get resolved, but at this point, that's all it is: speculation.
But it's a near-certainty that if a route goes from having two airlines offering nonstop service to having only one, prices will increase.
Jul 31, 2012, 7:36 am
#1597
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ABQ & RNO
Programs: AA EXP 4MM, Piper Dakota, Admirals Club, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Gold, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 1,426
A Cinderella Outcome
Jul 31, 2012, 7:43 am
#1598
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Posts: 13,913
I my biggest fear with an AA/US merger where US is the acquirer would be the cheapening of the F service.
Jul 31, 2012, 8:40 am
#1599
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SJC
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Jul 31, 2012, 9:00 am
#1600
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Did it occur to FTs that if AA went with complimentary domestic upgrades for all elites the F product would end up looking like what USAir has. No meals on flights under 3.5 hours, cold meals at other times, a nasty snack basket instead of warm nuts and the cookie on refreshment flights. Personally I like having a full meal (including snack service on off hours) on NYC/MIA and NYC/DFW flights.
I my biggest fear with an AA/US merger where US is the acquirer would be the cheapening of the F service.
I my biggest fear with an AA/US merger where US is the acquirer would be the cheapening of the F service.
Jul 31, 2012, 9:27 am
#1601
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Location: Bay Area
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Posts: 3,851
Jul 31, 2012, 11:07 am
#1603
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: BNA and TPA
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Jul 31, 2012, 11:16 am
#1604
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SEA
Programs: AA ExP/1.5MM, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 19
Being Seattle-based, I fly Alaska quite frequently, and an AA/AS merger would make likely make huge improvements in my travel life. Having been MVP Gold on AS for 12 of the last 14 years, I can say they have a couple of perks that would be nice if they carry over. The top one is the waived change fee for Gold. Add to that EVERYONE gets a 20 minute checked bag delivery guarantee. Confirmed Gold upgrades at time of booking on all but the deepest discount fares. And for me, non-stops from Seattle to Reagan, Newark, Austin, Orlando, all of Hawaii, and more.
Love to see it!
Love to see it!
Jul 31, 2012, 11:19 am
#1605
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Not to mention that Alaska has shown no interest at least publicly. Also, the article states that financing will be an issue but yet Wall Street loves the deal. I can tell you that if Wall Street loves the deal (and Wall Street is very good at loving deals that ultimately spell disaster) there will be bankers tripping over themselves to provide financing.