Speculation: Theoretical F cabin placement on 763 if...
Sep 22, 2011, 1:37 pm
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Speculation: Theoretical F cabin placement on 763 if...
So according to a.net speculation, when the 762s go away, then a few of the 763's would get converted to 3 class. I was thinking about how a reconfigured 763 could look. Would this be feasible?
Keep the NGBC J seats where they are.
Rip out the economy mini-cabin and install F seats/suites there?
Would a cabin layout where F was between J and Y work, or does custom dictate that F is always the forward most cabin? My thinking is that this way you have to just rip out one section of seats instead of moving lots of things around.
Keep the NGBC J seats where they are.
Rip out the economy mini-cabin and install F seats/suites there?
Would a cabin layout where F was between J and Y work, or does custom dictate that F is always the forward most cabin? My thinking is that this way you have to just rip out one section of seats instead of moving lots of things around.
Sep 22, 2011, 1:50 pm
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I kinda doubt F would be placed between the engines behind J.
It's relatively easy to move all of J back. Loosen the bolts on the seat track and slide everything back.
It's relatively easy to move all of J back. Loosen the bolts on the seat track and slide everything back.
Sep 22, 2011, 2:28 pm
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Despite the rumors, AA has not officially decided to do about the 762 replacement, used primarily on transcons. If the 763s are used, AA might go with a smaller J cabin. IMHO I don't see AA doing away with the entire Y mini cabin.
The other issue is when AA would finally get the 787s. Without the 787s the 763s may not be available for domestic use. Also, AA would need to consider what to do with routes where a 787 or a 777 may be too much of an a/c.
The other issue is when AA would finally get the 787s. Without the 787s the 763s may not be available for domestic use. Also, AA would need to consider what to do with routes where a 787 or a 777 may be too much of an a/c.
Sep 22, 2011, 3:03 pm
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Or if United pulls F on their PS Service, expect AA to do the same. The SAG contracts no longer require F on Transcons.
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I have a feeling it's days are numbered, closer than most people think.
Sep 22, 2011, 3:04 pm
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In the 60's, British European Airways (now part of BA) had Vickers Viscounts with the F class in the back. This was due to the noise of the turboprops being louder upfront. I believe that the Loockheed Electras also had a First Class behind Economy, for the same reason. As those who fly the older generation of turboprops know, the worst noise is between the propellers.
Sep 22, 2011, 3:06 pm
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I think First will be relegated to the 777 (or 787) as domestic first really is not much better than NGBC
Sep 22, 2011, 4:24 pm
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That's my view. AA doesn't need to added capacity of a 767-300 v. a -200, and can use the long-haul capacity (perhaps to places not currently in the network).
Sep 22, 2011, 4:56 pm
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The 763 used to be configured in a 3 class configuration.
Sep 22, 2011, 5:21 pm
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Exactly. If AA reconfigures any 763s to 3-class, the F cabin will likely look exactly like it did in 2003 when AA removed the F lie-flats (that are currently used in the 762s). Simply reinstall the coffins and move J back about 15-18 feet.
Sep 22, 2011, 5:33 pm
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Sep 22, 2011, 6:14 pm
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I also question whether they'd even go with three-class planes if/when the 763 replaces the 762 for transcon flights. The trend overall seems to be away from F, with many international carriers abandoning the product all together (or planning to do so).
As long as we're playing "fantasy configuration", I'd rather see an expanded premium cabin with a 2-1-2 configuration (like CO 767s) using either recycled coffins or the 777 J seats (if they got rid of F on there the current J seat wouldn't cut it) with slightly wider dividers/tables between them.
Sep 22, 2011, 6:16 pm
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In the 60's, British European Airways (now part of BA) had Vickers Viscounts with the F class in the back. This was due to the noise of the turboprops being louder upfront. I believe that the Loockheed Electras also had a First Class behind Economy, for the same reason. As those who fly the older generation of turboprops know, the worst noise is between the propellers.
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