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FLL-PAP As well as ex-SJUs Eagle flights

thig

Good, those MD-80s are so loud, and surely must burn a ton of gas.

Microwave

Yes, it is. AA seem to use the terms "cornerstone" and "hub" interchangeably, but in a press release announcing a Cooperative Agreement with Air Berlin it was pretty clearly spelled out:

The Matador

AA is well on it's way to being a boutique airline, serving the exp's who live near a hub.

If you're a biz traveler, you stand a decent shot of being put on an rj if you're not in a major market, if you're a pleasure traveler, you're not going to fly AA because they're more expensive, garbage IFE compared to the competition, and an aging fleet which they can't afford to upgrade.

moman

Agreed with this, my airports often have AA at double the price of DL.

I don't understand the continual digs on the MD-80s. The airplane can provide an exceptional flexibility to AA. What AA should do is get them out of ORD and run a smaller plane, maybe pick up that subfleet of 717s that Boeing has before Delta does and deploys them against AA.

Oh, and I think the cornerstone strategy is poor. It will lead to AA missing a whole lot of P2P routes that could be profitable. It hasn't worked yet and there is no sign that it will work outside of the shoe-in markets of MIA/DFW.

kebosabi

Of course, AA's cornerstone strategy could also be AA's focus on the cities where most Americans tend to live. Out of the five cornerstones JFK, LAX, ORD, DFW are the top four most populous metropolitan statistical areas in the US. Counting MIA, the five cornerstones make up roughly 17% of the US population, accounting for almost 1 out of 5 Americans' travel needs.

kebosabi

Hmm, thanks for noting that.

Maybe it's the "new routes" from LAX being mostly RJs that puts me off as thinking LAX as an AA hub. If they want LAX to be a hub, they could try at least competing with WN on LAX-SLC/PHX/ABQ/ELP with mainline fleets; I already flew some of them and they get filled up too quickly! Those routes warrant something bigger than an RJ!

Plus, they tend to rely on AS as much to do most of the routes along the West Coast. When AA starts flying their own mainline fleets to PDX/SEA/YVR then I'd consider it to be a true hub. It's good that I can earn EQM on AS on those routes, but still lack of AC access, preferred seating, comp upgrades, hurts when shuttling between LAX and Pac-NW.

Microwave

I think in the new AA order, they simply call it a hub because it has more than a handful of flights to non-hubs. It certainly pales in comparison to DFW or ORD, of course.

[/QUOTE]they tend to rely on AS as much to do most of the routes along the West Coast. When AA starts flying their own mainline fleets to PDX/SEA/YVR then I'd consider it to be a true hub. It's good that I can earn EQM on AS on those routes, but still lack of AC access, preferred seating, comp upgrades, hurts when shuttling between LAX and Pac-NW. [/QUOTE]

As an EXP that splits his time between SEA and LHR, I feel the lack of west coast AA flying acutely. I'd give my left kidney for even a few daily CR7s between SEA and LAX... I just don't see it happening though.

dayone

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chanp

Internationally AA is weak from LAX.

living near shamu

Sorry to ask this question, but what is WN?

chanp

Southwest

living near shamu

Thanks!

DeltaFlyingProf

A few tons actually