Bravo! FA boots invaders from Y
#63
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#64
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Whenever I flew solo or with my borther as a kid, I would try this, but it never worked. Then I smartened up and changed my tactic (chatted up the FAs for a while then commenting on how I noticed a lot of open space in business class, don't care about food or what not, it would just be nice to sleep on a TATL when I only have a few days at my destination considering my height [6'3"] would be difficult in Y). The first time I did it, it worked! Since then, probably closer to 2/40 times...still not bad imo.
#66
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Let's be at least a little realistic here. First off, I don't agree with what they did.
With that said, if they just sit in the seats and don't consume anything, there is absolutely no cost to AA. Plane is in the air, so they can't sell the seats. And there is no consumable cost.
So, yeah, it's wrong. But it's nothing like shoplifting or dine & dash. Not even close.
Cheers.
With that said, if they just sit in the seats and don't consume anything, there is absolutely no cost to AA. Plane is in the air, so they can't sell the seats. And there is no consumable cost.
So, yeah, it's wrong. But it's nothing like shoplifting or dine & dash. Not even close.
Cheers.
Especially since Purser sometimes upgrades friends or family once the door closes. Or what about all of the other shady upgrades some GA's or FA's are known to have given out. They'd be just as criminally responsible as a Dine & Dasher, since they don't own AA and have no 'right' to be giving out those seats.
#69
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Beer for minors and other oddities
First, I've bought beer and other alcoholic drinks for teenagers literally dozens of times - no big deal*. What the Queen of Coach thinks doesn't worry me in the least - I'm out of her jurisdiction. I'm more concerned about what the Earl of Business or the Duke of First would say. More my territory
Secondly, the whole beer issue actually arose as a comedic aside relating to a now-deleted thread which had raised my ire at the ilk of some other posters relating to conditions at the MIA AC where I offered to buy the 'offending' posters a Presidente (see vasantn's link in post #8 as proof that such a thread really existed at one time). What they didn't know was that I was planning on breaking the bottle of beer over their heads had they taken me up on the offer. I've since calmed down and regained my senses, and rather than wasting a good Presidente or two, would be MORE than willing to buy them a Miller Lite or Budweiser at the nearest Admirals Club. The offer stands...
Regarding the interlopers there is a bit more to the story. When the two offenders boarded (and its my guess they were 17 and 14, may have been 22 and 18, I didn't ask for IDs), the boy sat down in 3B (738 bulkhead) and I don't recall what the girl was up to. An older gentleman then boarded and he and the boy say a few words in a conversational manner and the boy got up went into the back and the older gentleman and lady sat down in 3A and 3B. At the time I would have guessed if asked that they were their parents but who knows, maybe the kid was bold enough to think he could grab a seat upfront even before boarding was halfway done.
After takeoff and climb, seatbelt light goes out and the two 'young adults' dart up front. Boy tosses backpack into 5E and sits down in 5F. Girl goes to bathroom (a FURTHER offense!) and is in there for at least 10 minutes - the FA was going to knock but she finally came out. She then sits down next to boy. Neither says anything to couple in 3A/B. Ten or so minutes go by with one FA walking back and forth saying nothing. 1st class FA then notices and has words with them. Boy puts up brave front, girl just sits there. FA gets a bit more strident and they split. Couple in 3A/B never turn around or get involved. I only noticed all this because F was basically empty and they were sitting across from me.
*There was a time when the drinking age was 18, and in certain northern Wisconsin taverns you could get a beer as long as you were old and/or not inebriated enough to ask for one. And I also benefited from being 6' 4" and fully whiskered at a relatively young age and so became undeservingly popular with some in my high school class. Boones Farm Strawberry Hill, anyone? Cheers.
Secondly, the whole beer issue actually arose as a comedic aside relating to a now-deleted thread which had raised my ire at the ilk of some other posters relating to conditions at the MIA AC where I offered to buy the 'offending' posters a Presidente (see vasantn's link in post #8 as proof that such a thread really existed at one time). What they didn't know was that I was planning on breaking the bottle of beer over their heads had they taken me up on the offer. I've since calmed down and regained my senses, and rather than wasting a good Presidente or two, would be MORE than willing to buy them a Miller Lite or Budweiser at the nearest Admirals Club. The offer stands...
Regarding the interlopers there is a bit more to the story. When the two offenders boarded (and its my guess they were 17 and 14, may have been 22 and 18, I didn't ask for IDs), the boy sat down in 3B (738 bulkhead) and I don't recall what the girl was up to. An older gentleman then boarded and he and the boy say a few words in a conversational manner and the boy got up went into the back and the older gentleman and lady sat down in 3A and 3B. At the time I would have guessed if asked that they were their parents but who knows, maybe the kid was bold enough to think he could grab a seat upfront even before boarding was halfway done.
After takeoff and climb, seatbelt light goes out and the two 'young adults' dart up front. Boy tosses backpack into 5E and sits down in 5F. Girl goes to bathroom (a FURTHER offense!) and is in there for at least 10 minutes - the FA was going to knock but she finally came out. She then sits down next to boy. Neither says anything to couple in 3A/B. Ten or so minutes go by with one FA walking back and forth saying nothing. 1st class FA then notices and has words with them. Boy puts up brave front, girl just sits there. FA gets a bit more strident and they split. Couple in 3A/B never turn around or get involved. I only noticed all this because F was basically empty and they were sitting across from me.
*There was a time when the drinking age was 18, and in certain northern Wisconsin taverns you could get a beer as long as you were old and/or not inebriated enough to ask for one. And I also benefited from being 6' 4" and fully whiskered at a relatively young age and so became undeservingly popular with some in my high school class. Boones Farm Strawberry Hill, anyone? Cheers.
Last edited by masonp123; Jan 11, 2011 at 9:07 pm
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#74
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For anybody wondering about the references, here is the Seinfeld video. The FA handled it well. It seems like what is stealing is hard to determine in certain industries. Software piracy is another example of this. But I think a FA sending the person back to their ticketed cabin is the best solution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NienKmtknI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NienKmtknI
Last edited by Xero; Jan 12, 2011 at 4:30 pm
#75
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I often remember my times as a ten to fourteen year-old traveling back and forth from PHL to HOU on bi-annual visits to see my father. This was in the early to mid eighties and I often changed my seats (as an unaccompanied minor) back to the smoking section so I could enjoy a few smokes on the 4 hour flight. On about half of those flights, I was upgraded to F by chatting up the FAs in the back during takeoff. Of course, they never served me drinks but I got pretty good at sneaking a mini or two as the cart went by. Thanks CO! On my last flight at the age of 14 I joined the MHC and smoked my first joint, also at over a mile high but not with an FA. Actually it was with a female truancy officer... go figure.
It's no wonder I still love flying as it was instrumental in my growth as an adolescent
It's no wonder I still love flying as it was instrumental in my growth as an adolescent