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Old Feb 22, 2010, 11:54 am
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Los Angeles-Reno (LAX-RNO) is back

Los Angeles-Reno will once again be served by AA starting 10 June, with year-round, thrice-daily ERJ service.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Americ....html?x=0&.v=1
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by MAH4546
Los Angeles-Reno will once again be served by AA starting 10 June, with year-round, thrice-daily ERJ service.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Americ....html?x=0&.v=1
Interesting. AS already flies x4 a day between LAX-RNO (one via Mammoth ^). Will AS take this as increased competition from AA, or as a possible bilateral code-sharing opportunity with AA?
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 12:49 pm
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Great to see more west coast flights although it seems odd the new addition where they could have an AS code share.

Now for LAX-SLC, PHX, TUS .... pls
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 1:00 pm
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ohhh so close to SMF-LAX!! well at least a step in the right direction...we can hope.
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 3:37 pm
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On a similar note, LAX-DEN goes from 2x 738 to 2x 738/2x ERD the same day.
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 5:16 pm
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IIRC, the new Eagle nest that was required b/c of the midfield construction is larger than the prior one -- maybe the marginal costs are low enough to risk some other routes?

That 6:15am departure is VERY early for O&D traffic, and too early for connections from anywhere else in the US. OTOH, it works pretty well for people arriving from Hawaii or Mexico at 5am.
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by CO FF
IIRC, the new Eagle nest that was required b/c of the midfield construction is larger than the prior one -- maybe the marginal costs are low enough to risk some other routes?

That 6:15am departure is VERY early for O&D traffic, and too early for connections from anywhere else in the US. OTOH, it works pretty well for people arriving from Hawaii or Mexico at 5am.
I think you're right. Although I have yet to see the new AE terminal, LAX's online memo says they haven't opened up the "north opening" of the new commuter building yet. Looks like more AE flights out of LAX? ^

http://l-a-x.org/uploadedFiles/AirOp...120-100125.pdf



The only downside is the longer shuttle and the cushion time needed for connecting flights
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Old Feb 25, 2010, 7:18 am
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troubling speculation from Brett Snyder here about AA/AS/DL relations...

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Old Feb 25, 2010, 11:12 pm
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troubling speculation from Brett Snyder here about AA/AS/DL relations...

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To add to this, Alaska (QX) uploaded an additional LAX-RNO frequency for this summer. That quiet addition speaks volumes.
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Old Feb 26, 2010, 12:14 am
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I dearly hope that isn't the case because I'd lose out on an all important EQM partner for my key travels within the West Coast

C'mon AS, AA is much better than DL! Think of the opportunities you can have by joining OW! It's much better than DL+Skyteam!!
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Old Feb 26, 2010, 3:50 am
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Originally Posted by jabrams72
troubling speculation from Brett Snyder here about AA/AS/DL relations...

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American remains Alaska's most important codeshare partner by far, accounting for over 40% of Alaska's codeshare revenue.

Furthermore, rumor is that AA and AS will be announcing even more FF benefits in the third quarter of the year.

The fact remains that AA and AS, codeshare or not, are still competitors.
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Old Feb 26, 2010, 3:58 am
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Originally Posted by MAH4546
American remains Alaska's most important codeshare partner by far, accounting for over 40% of Alaska's codeshare revenue.

Furthermore, rumor is that AA and AS will be announcing even more FF benefits in the third quarter of the year.

The fact remains that AA and AS, codeshare or not, are still competitors.
The one that worries me the most is that AS will be moving to T6 at LAX, which is right next to DL's T5 and further away from AA T4. More potential benefit to AS to get connecting passengers from DL.
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Old Feb 26, 2010, 6:25 am
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Has anyone been to RNO lately? The whole dowtown is a ghosttown with massive buildings completely vacant and many casinos closed. This flight won't last.
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Old Feb 26, 2010, 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by MAH4546

The fact remains that AA and AS, codeshare or not, are still competitors.
Still, it seems odd that AA would start opps to a place it already serves from LAX through a codeshare when there are no codeshares to SLC, TUS or PHX.

Then again, they know why we fly and must believe there are some good opportunities for connection revenue from Asia and Hawaii.
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Old Feb 26, 2010, 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by kebosabi
The one that worries me the most is that AS will be moving to T6 at LAX, which is right next to DL's T5 and further away from AA T4. More potential benefit to AS to get connecting passengers from DL.
T4 is connected to T6 by underground tunnels behind security, and AA is working with LAX officials to get those underground tunnels re-opened so that passengers can connect between T4 and T6 by walking within security.

And, slightly unrelated, but with the new TBIT terminal construction now having broken ground, AA will have four gates at TBIT (TBIT is common use, by this I mean AA will have priority over all others to reserve four gates) and TBIT will be connected to T4 by a new behind-security walkway. By late 2013, one should be able to walk from TBIT to T6 behind security. AA also has first dibs on any leases that expire in T5.

AA has its eyes set on becoming LAX's largest carrier. AA already is the largest carrier at LAX by itself, but when you look at AA+MQ and UA+UX, the latter is larger.

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