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Alitalia may leave SkyTeam for Star Alliance - reports

Alitalia may leave SkyTeam for Star Alliance - reports

Old May 10, 20, 9:02 am
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Alitalia may leave SkyTeam for Star Alliance - reports

Originally Posted by Bloomberg
The Italian government is assessing several candidates to head a new state-controlled company to run failed carrier Alitalia SpA, newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore reported without saying where it got the information.

A leading candidate is former Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV executive Alfredo Altavilla, the newspaper said, adding that no decision has been taken. The government is also considering switching Alitalia’s partnership to Deutsche Lufthansa AG and Star Alliance, abandoning a current tie-up with Delta Air Lines Inc. and SkyTeam, the paper said.

Originally Posted by Flightglobal
Alitalia will need to evaluate carefully future transatlantic alliances as part of its strategy when the restructured company emerges from the air transport crisis, Italy’s economic development minister states.

Minister Stefano Patuanelli says the reshaped carrier’s business plan needs to “focus strongly” on long-haul transport, with “new” transatlantic alliances among the considerations for the management team – adding that he does not believe “stand-alone” is an option.

He did not elaborate on the alliance remarks while addressing the upper house of the Italian parliament on 7 May, but said: “I believe long-haul is one of the big assets in which to invest.”

Alitalia is a member of the SkyTeam alliance but was absent from a transatlantic joint-venture pact approved last year between SkyTeam carriers Delta Air Lines, Air France and KLM, which also included Delta’s UK partner Virgin Atlantic.
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Old May 11, 20, 7:48 am
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Why would *A want AZ to join the club? Also *A and TATL JV (UA/AC/LH Group) are 2 different things. Do they really hope to join the JV?
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Old May 11, 20, 8:57 am
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Why would *A want AZ to join the club?
To get their hands on the alliance joining and membership fees?
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Old May 11, 20, 1:33 pm
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If they want to survive & fly lh & tatl , the first thing block ek flight mxp-jfk .
Also I hope that they join oneworld, not *A as they will always be get the step son treatment by lufthansa.
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Old May 12, 20, 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by diamantaire View Post
Also I hope that they join oneworld, not *A as they will always be get the step son treatment by lufthansa.
Well, indeed, IAG may have been a better partner than the LH group, particularly given that LH appears to be reeling in the current circumstances. Reports in recent weeks have suggested that IAG may have been sniffing around Austrian Airlines, though it's probably not a great time for IAG to be seen to be out looking to buy other airlines when Iberia is in negotiation for some form of Government support, and BA is threatening massive job cuts.

I'm not privy to the thinking behind those that decided in the above articles that AZ was somehow on its way towards Star Alliance, but I suspect that it comes from a perspective that Alitalia was already visibly moving away from its previous "partners" in AFKL and DL, and that if it were to require some kind of new "partnership", that would most likely have come in the shape of LH or the LH group.

That said, I don't really see any particular need or benefit to AZ being in any alliance. They previously were restricted by their Skyteam partners and couldn't freely add the TATL routes that they themselves wanted without the approval of their TATL JV partners - which of course meant that they would have to share these revenues. With AZ frozen out of the purported new JV (AFKLDLVS) this may not have been a restriction on AZ and they may have been free to add TATL services as they pleased, without having to consult with AFKLDL, in the manner that UX has enjoyed.

As such, neither leaving Skyteam, nor joining an alternate alliance, whether Star Alliance or oneworld, appears to be of great import to Alitalia at this juncture.
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Old May 13, 20, 9:58 am
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I don't think *A would want them. LH has their hands full managing the current crisis and why would a tie-up with AZ help them in any material way?
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Old May 13, 20, 11:01 am
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I don't think *A would want them. LH has their hands full managing the current crisis and why would a tie-up with AZ help them in any material way?
Given AZ's cockroach-like ability to survive, and with its future now assured by being nationalised, perhaps they will be taking over LH at some point this summer?

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Old May 14, 20, 12:32 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28 View Post
Given AZ's cockroach-like ability to survive, and with its future now assured by being nationalised, perhaps they will be taking over LH at some point this summer?

Senor, perhaps more like the tardigrade? Because cockroaches need some sustenance. But AZ survives without water, light, food and does so in total vacuum conditions for normal enterprises....
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Originally Posted by irishguy28 View Post
Given AZ's cockroach-like ability to survive, and with its future now assured by being nationalised, perhaps they will be taking over LH at some point this summer?

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Senor, perhaps more like the tardigrade? Because cockroaches need some sustenance. But AZ survives without water, light, food and does so in total vacuum conditions for normal enterprises....
these two comments are the funniest things I've heard today...

On a serious note, I also feel that Alitalia would be a better fit in OW than in *A, given how many Europe based airlines *A already has. Given these circumstances, and LH's existing problems with OS, makes it seem less likely that LH will takeover AZ.
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Old May 16, 20, 11:33 pm
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Wow! I haven't heard anything in a long time! Guess they will move over to Star or One World alliance. I haven't been on AZ yet.

It's time to change.
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Out of ST

A real industrial plan to be a standalone company or the difficulty in even finding the cash to pay the dues?
the trumpeted restart of new AZ June 1st comes with BI-weekly frequencies in June to JFK, most, if not all of which, appear ‘sold out’...
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