AS Jump Seat Pilot on Mushrooms Tried to Shut Down Engines on AS Flight
Oct 23, 2023, 8:38 am
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AS Jump Seat Pilot on Mushrooms Tried to Shut Down Engines on AS Flight
A jump seater tried to shut down the engines on Alaska 2059 from Everett to SFO last night. Flight diverted to Portland after the guy was subdued. https://themessenger.com/business/pi...t-down-engines
Oct 23, 2023, 8:45 am
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Listen starting at 10:45: https://archive.liveatc.net/kpdx/KPD...ibextid=Zxz2cZ
Oct 23, 2023, 8:50 am
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Obviously this is breaking and there are probably things we don't yet know, but assuming the reporting is reasonably accurate, this is a pretty mind blowing action for an individual to take. This individual attempted something evil and failed at it (thankfully) and now faces a ruined career and frankly, ruined life. The hammer will come down hard on this person (rightfully so). I can't imagine what motivates someone to attempt this type of thing (well, I guess I can conjure a few ideas, but that likely goes in OMNI territory).
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Oct 23, 2023, 9:05 am
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It’ll be interesting to see who this idiot is. All eligible airline staff J/S riders are entered into a Federal data base called CASS, AS connects to it via their agent system called JACS. Every approved employee rider from all airlines has gone through the Fed background check. So no one can just come up, flash their ID and driver ticket and hop a ride. If you don’t show up in CASS as employed and vetted and then working for a carrier with an authorized jS agreement with AS/QX, you don’t get to access to the cockpit. Even AS own maintenance, operations employees and Executives are included on the JACS side. This system came about after 911. This is going to be interesting to watch and see what changes this fool forces. The aviation background check is for possible criminal activity but has very little to do with an unstable mind.
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Oct 23, 2023, 9:07 am
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It’ll be interesting to see who this idiot is. All eligible airline staff J/S riders are entered into a national data base called CASS, AS connects to it via their agent system called JACS. Every approved employee rider from all airlines has gone through the Fed background check. So no one can just come up, flash their ID and driver ticket and hop a ride. If you don’t show up in CASS as employed and vetted and then working for a carrier with an authorized jS agreement with AS/QX, you don’t get to access to the cockpit. Even AS own maintenance, operations employees and Executives are included on the JACS side. This system came about after 911. This is going to be interesting to watch and see what changes this fool forces.
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