BA Awards Vanished?
#1
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Join Date: Jun 2018
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BA Awards Vanished?
I have been looking for a transatlantic award in J for next September (330 days out) and I am not seeing anything on BA, not even Y class. Is this an Alaska IT issue, or is BA holding back award seats?
#2
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Keep looking. I found I had to wait about two weeks from the booking window for some award space to pop up. Sometimes it takes months, sometimes it never shows up -- but it is increasingly rare to see it right at the 330 day mark for BA and frankly most carriers. FJ is the only airline that seems to be reliably opening space at the window.
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Keep looking. I found I had to wait about two weeks from the booking window for some award space to pop up. Sometimes it takes months, sometimes it never shows up -- but it is increasingly rare to see it right at the 330 day mark for BA and frankly most carriers. FJ is the only airline that seems to be reliably opening space at the window.
#4
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BA Executive Club members can book award seats at T-355 days, when they are released. The J seats (2 to 4 on each flight) on popular routes (like SEA to LHR) during peak travel season (May through September) often get snapped up that day or shortly thereafter.
Looking on BA.com, right now there are J seats left for one or both of the SEA to LHR flights on Sept. 18-19, 21-24, and 26. But right now the Alaska booking system ends on Sept. 9. Maybe those Sept. 18 J seats will still be there in 9 days—-it is worth looking.
Looking on BA.com, right now there are J seats left for one or both of the SEA to LHR flights on Sept. 18-19, 21-24, and 26. But right now the Alaska booking system ends on Sept. 9. Maybe those Sept. 18 J seats will still be there in 9 days—-it is worth looking.
#6
Join Date: Oct 2023
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Change in Availability?
I was looking at redeeming a LIS-LHR-BNA ticket in early September on BA and there was generally availability on the LIS-LHR leg late last week but over the weekend, the inventory seems to have been generally removed (last date there is a seat is 25 July and I find it a bit hard to believe that over the weekend every seat from 25 July including all of August got snapped up on LIS-LHR...). Does anyone know if there a change in policy or something (like introducing blackout dates on certain routes)? I tried looking at a few other ones like MAD-LHR, BCN-LHR and FCO-LHR and I don't see anything either the week I am looking at.
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That being said, enjoy, it's not a blanket block.
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But in any case, not allowing intra European flights on a partner like BA makes little sense, especially now that they are part of OW.
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Does AS.com still have pages that spell out what regions are allowed for a given partner’s awards? I looked around recently and right now and can’t seem to find them anymore. May be explained by a lack of coffee..
But in any case, not allowing intra European flights on a partner like BA makes little sense, especially now that they are part of OW.
But in any case, not allowing intra European flights on a partner like BA makes little sense, especially now that they are part of OW.
I did post about the BA awards no longer being tied to NA. You can redeem AS miles on flights to/from EU, ME, Africa & Asia. I haven't seen anything to AU. You can even book through UK to other regions like CPT-LHR-AMS or CPT-LGW//LHR-DOH.
Similarly, you can redeem awards on JL TYO to/from AU, EU, & UK; no longer just Asia/Subcontinent
There was, as usual, a lot of availability on BA when I first noticed. That has since dwindled, but could be the result of updates to booking functionality or dynamic pricing. I didn't see any awards strickly within the UK.
I haven't seen any changes to CX or QF yet. When QF is "enhanced," I suspect other regions will become available independent of an NA award like AU-NZ/Asia/ME/UK/South Pacific. Maybe even AU-South America.
CX will likely be "enhanced" as well. You could always book CX to/from AU/ME/ASIA/South Africa with or without a NA O/D but all awards outside of Asia terminated in HKG if not to/from NA. CX to EU/UK was also available but as standalone only; NA O/D required two awards. I think we may see the HKG terminating restrictions lifted and options like DXB-HKG-SYD/TYO open up.
James
Last edited by Flying for Fun; Oct 16, 2023 at 4:49 pm
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I am not sure I would redeem 7.5K & $47 LHR-AMS which I would value at $197. Flying in the EU & UK is pretty much crap anyway (sans AYs A350 LHR-HEL service, 20K in J). I would just buy a cheap non HBO fare and as a OWE would still get First Wing security, F lounge access, able to select exit row seating at booking which has more legroom than CE, 500 AS EQM & 1250 RDM. That is a $25 rebate. I did that to reposition LHR-IST. Last minute purchase was $152.
For AU-SIN SQ was always an option before. SQ never showed in the region maps for AU-Asia. SQ only showed up in the Asia-South Pacific regions, but included AU. It was 65K for AU/NZ-SE Asia, but no SIN stopover was/is permitted. I know we haven't seen SQ awards in a while, but some did briefly show (less than a day) about a month ago, even Inter-Asia J at 20K. It may be that SQ awards are off-line as AS renegotiates their partnership.
James
Last edited by Flying for Fun; Oct 16, 2023 at 5:57 pm
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I am not sad not seeing BA award on AS site. Not also is it cleaner from a search results POV, the amount of surcharge is insulting. Ironically, it's called an award flight.
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I am not sure I would redeem 7.5K & $47 LHR-AMS which I would value at $197. Flying in the EU & UK is pretty much crap anyway (sans AYs A350 LHR-HEL service, 20K in J). I would just buy a cheap non HBO fare and as a OWE would still get First Wing security, F lounge access, able to select exit row seating at booking which has more legroom than CE, 500 AS EQM & 1250 RDM. That is a $25 rebate. I did that to reposition LHR-IST. Last minute purchase was $152.
Frankly everything AS gets is leftover slop, BA and some other OW programs got nearly a month head start booking those awards.