New 2023 SAN Routes: IAD, TPA, EUG

Old Jan 30, 2023, 10:42 am
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New 2023 SAN Routes: IAD, TPA, EUG

https://news.alaskaair.com/alaska-ai...oast-nonstops/

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Old Jan 30, 2023, 10:49 am
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SAN does seem to have open gates -- not a huge fan of the seating area where most of the AS departures are, it gets cramped -- but a close walk to the Aspire lounge.
I guess AS is planning to do something to fill up those 4 daily PDX nonstops and 6(!) daily SEA with connecting traffic.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by leroix
I guess AS is planning to do something to fill up those 4 daily PDX nonstops and 6(!) daily SEA with connecting traffic.
You mean, they will fly people from SEA to SAN so they can then go onto IAD, TPA or EUG? (and vice versa). Seems like an odd strategy to me.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by leroix
I guess AS is planning to do something to fill up those 4 daily PDX nonstops and 6(!) daily SEA with connecting traffic.
Why would you fly PDX/SEA-SAN-EUG unless you're doing "I'm a crazy FTer and I need the EQM" kind of stuff?

This is very clearly meant to capture point to point traffic out of SAN and enhance the focus city.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 11:26 am
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Loading on the PDX-SAN planes lately is abysmal -- 5(!) non-stops today.

The morning departure today was 80% empty -- the two next departures at 50% empty, afternoon better around 25% empty and the night departure is 80% empty. (1 passenger total seated between row 22 and row 32!)

They haven't lowered prices enough to drum up demand -- not sure what the strategy is here.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward

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LOL...well they are dropping LAX-FAT in April as well as reducing 29 weekly flights between SJC and LAX with the same drop in frequencies for SAN-SJC. They are also reducing SMF-SAN by 22 flights per week.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward

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bouncing around - there are noticeably fewer flts from LA area.. HI were decimated, many smaller - AUS, RNO, FAT, SLC etc vanished or greatly reduced as well... maybe they can anchor in SAN but i doubt - connecting hubs in extreme northwest or extreme southwest seems nuts...
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by azepine00
bouncing around - there are noticeably fewer flts from LA area.. HI were decimated, many smaller - AUS, RNO, FAT, SLC etc vanished or greatly reduced as well... maybe they can anchor in SAN but i doubt - connecting hubs in extreme northwest or extreme southwest seems nuts...
Once again, SAN isnt a hub. Its all O/D traffic.
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I think WN either already does or announced EUG-SAN so this is probably a direct response from AS. Good for them!
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
Once again, SAN isnt a hub. Its all O/D traffic.
I mean, maybe it should be? At least they'd never have a deicing problem
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So.... How soon until these get axed?
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by StevenSeagalFan
I think WN either already does or announced EUG-SAN so this is probably a direct response from AS. Good for them!
They didonce weekly, I believe.
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Originally Posted by mfolf
So.... How soon until these get axed?
There are still many months until they are scheduled to "start". Plenty of time to quietly ax them and route everybody through SEA.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by azepine00
bouncing around - there are noticeably fewer flts from LA area.. HI were decimated, many smaller - AUS, RNO, FAT, SLC etc vanished or greatly reduced as well... maybe they can anchor in SAN but i doubt - connecting hubs in extreme northwest or extreme southwest seems nuts...
...and the focus city of SJC appears to be not very focused either. With the April cuts, it will be a small outstation.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 5:30 pm
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...and the focus city of SJC appears to be not very focused either.
Narrowly focused, of course.
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