Baggage Guarantee
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: WA State
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold, Hilton Gold, Red Lion Gold
Posts: 177
Baggage Guarantee
I flew SEA to IAD tonight.
I walked off the plane at 11:58.
My checked bag didn’t arrive until 12:23.
the agent, who was hanging out at the baggage area, was the first EVER to argue with me when I asked for my miles. He said “it wasn’t 11:58, it was 12:00”. I said okay that doesn’t matter, it’s still 12:23.
He said “my watch says it’s 12:22, so you won’t get anything”. I reminded him he said 12:00, so 22 was past the guarantee timeline. He was literally 10 feet from where bags come off.
I’ve never ever had anyone remotely contest baggage guarantee from Alaska until today. They are always so quick to say “here ya go!” Is this a DC thing? Or is this the new normal? My flying had been calm the last two months - but I’m back to weekly through end of year.
I walked off the plane at 11:58.
My checked bag didn’t arrive until 12:23.
the agent, who was hanging out at the baggage area, was the first EVER to argue with me when I asked for my miles. He said “it wasn’t 11:58, it was 12:00”. I said okay that doesn’t matter, it’s still 12:23.
He said “my watch says it’s 12:22, so you won’t get anything”. I reminded him he said 12:00, so 22 was past the guarantee timeline. He was literally 10 feet from where bags come off.
I’ve never ever had anyone remotely contest baggage guarantee from Alaska until today. They are always so quick to say “here ya go!” Is this a DC thing? Or is this the new normal? My flying had been calm the last two months - but I’m back to weekly through end of year.
#2
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 85
I had a similar experience at EWR and after realizing the agent wouldn't budge at all I just relented and later called customer care to let them know. They apologized profusely, issued me the guarantee and said some of the agents at outstations are contracted by third parties. I would call customer care and explain your experience to them.
With how much AS advertises their baggage guarantee, I'm going to hold them to it.
With how much AS advertises their baggage guarantee, I'm going to hold them to it.
#3
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: Southwest A-List; Alaska MVPG; Hilton Diamond; Avis PreferredPlus; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum Elite
Posts: 920
I had a similar experience at EWR and after realizing the agent wouldn't budge at all I just relented and later called customer care to let them know. They apologized profusely, issued me the guarantee and said some of the agents at outstations are contracted by third parties. I would call customer care and explain your experience to them.
With how much AS advertises their baggage guarantee, I'm going to hold them to it.
With how much AS advertises their baggage guarantee, I'm going to hold them to it.
#4
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: DC
Programs: Amtrak slumbercoach value club
Posts: 1,163
I’m shocked … you were able to get to bag claim in time to be able to try to invoke the guarantee. We’re talking Dulles late night after all. For what it’s worth, hod no trouble claiming at DCA earlier this year.
#5
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS
Posts: 2,293
I have had this happen more than once. Seems to happen more at out stations, stalling tactics have been employed by agents hoping to discourage me .
. Anything from “you need to wait for authorized person to come back from lunch” , “ the 20 minutes starts when bags start coming off carousel “ , ” sorry, ran out of vouchers, can’t help you” and the best “ we don’t do that anymore”.
. Anything from “you need to wait for authorized person to come back from lunch” , “ the 20 minutes starts when bags start coming off carousel “ , ” sorry, ran out of vouchers, can’t help you” and the best “ we don’t do that anymore”.
#6
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: BWI,SFO,SJC,IAD,LAX,DCA
Programs: mvp75k, DL-0body
Posts: 310
I am sure with escalation, you get your AS promise ...
On a side note, IAD used to be my home airport and - I have never got any late baggage for the last twenty-something flights during 2020-21
I time it and it always 10-13 minutes door-to-first bag/redlight district flashing .
Haha
On a side note, IAD used to be my home airport and - I have never got any late baggage for the last twenty-something flights during 2020-21
I time it and it always 10-13 minutes door-to-first bag/redlight district flashing .
Haha
#7
Join Date: Aug 2021
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K
Posts: 50
I'll add one question to this where I took a flight earlier this year SEA to ATL with carry on only and decided to walk to baggage claim to get a gist for how ATL handled bags in terms of timing (i.e. if I checked a bag should I expect to exercise the guarantee.) They were quite late and had I checked a bag, there was no question I could have invoked the guarantee. Only problem was after doing a lap or 2 around the carousel and the area I couldn't find an AS representative.
Any suggestions for how to handle this if this happens in the future?
Any suggestions for how to handle this if this happens in the future?
#8
Join Date: May 2011
Location: CMH
Programs: w/+1: AS MVPG; IHG/Marriott Plat; Hilton/BW Diamond; Hertz Prez; SG Silver
Posts: 1,188
I never tried to make a claim on the baggage guarantee but when the FA mentioned it on my SEA-CMH flight I figured I have a go. I took screen shots showing the time at door opening and when my bag appeared. 24 minutes on the clock so I sought a rep. He said it the time is to the first bag and his super said the same thing. Assuming AS cs will pay me, should I take the $25 credit which probably expires in a year or the miles which probably do not expire?
#9
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
I never tried to make a claim on the baggage guarantee but when the FA mentioned it on my SEA-CMH flight I figured I have a go. I took screen shots showing the time at door opening and when my bag appeared. 24 minutes on the clock so I sought a rep. He said it the time is to the first bag and his super said the same thing. Assuming AS cs will pay me, should I take the $25 credit which probably expires in a year or the miles which probably do not expire?
2,500 RDM is more miles than the base miles you would earn on an AS SEA-JFK flight. Purchasing AS miles* are 2.75 cents per mile + 7.50% tax. If you received $25 cash instead of a discount code, you could purchase 845 miles. Conversely, if you purchased 2,500 miles it would cost you $73.91.
You can only apply one discount code per itinerary so you are limited to a $25 discount (off base fare, it does not reduce fees & taxes)
Personally, I find the $25 discount codes a nuisance especially when I have other discounts of a higher value or I am using a companion certificate.
I rarely check bags so I don't often get to claim the baggage guaratee. In the odd times I have, I always take the miles.
*Purchasing AS miles are based on a 1,000 mile minimum and in 1,000 miles increments, maximum 100,000 miles per transaction. The calculations above are for illustration purposes only.
James
Last edited by Flying for Fun; Jul 20, 2023 at 9:40 pm
#10
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: Southwest A-List; Alaska MVPG; Hilton Diamond; Avis PreferredPlus; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum Elite
Posts: 920
I never tried to make a claim on the baggage guarantee but when the FA mentioned it on my SEA-CMH flight I figured I have a go. I took screen shots showing the time at door opening and when my bag appeared. 24 minutes on the clock so I sought a rep. He said it the time is to the first bag and his super said the same thing. Assuming AS cs will pay me, should I take the $25 credit which probably expires in a year or the miles which probably do not expire?
His super was wrong.
Take badge numbers or names and contact CS.
The language of the BSG is not ambiguous at all: “If your bags are not at baggage claim within 20 minutes of your plane’s arrival at the gate, we’ll offer you a $25 discount code for use on a future Alaska Airlines flight, or 2,500 Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ bonus miles.”
Your bags. Not the first bag.
Personally, I take miles.
#11
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, AS 75k, AA Plat, Bonvoyed Gold, Honors Dia, Hyatt Explorer, IHG Plat, ...
Posts: 16,857
He was wrong.
His super was wrong.
Take badge numbers or names and contact CS.
The language of the BSG is not ambiguous at all: “If your bags are not at baggage claim within 20 minutes of your plane’s arrival at the gate, we’ll offer you a $25 discount code for use on a future Alaska Airlines flight, or 2,500 Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ bonus miles.”
Your bags. Not the first bag.
His super was wrong.
Take badge numbers or names and contact CS.
The language of the BSG is not ambiguous at all: “If your bags are not at baggage claim within 20 minutes of your plane’s arrival at the gate, we’ll offer you a $25 discount code for use on a future Alaska Airlines flight, or 2,500 Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ bonus miles.”
Your bags. Not the first bag.
Write to customer service.
As others, I would take the miles.
#12
Join Date: May 2011
Location: CMH
Programs: w/+1: AS MVPG; IHG/Marriott Plat; Hilton/BW Diamond; Hertz Prez; SG Silver
Posts: 1,188
I called AS cs and they sided with the airport agent. A perfect example of HUCA. I did an online chat and got the miles in less than 5 minutes.
#13
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
Originally Posted by rxgeek;[url=tel:35433107
35433107[/url]]I called AS cs and they sided with the airport agent. A perfect example of HUCA. I did an online chat and got the miles in less than 5 minutes.
#14
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SEA
Posts: 242
When I've already had to wait for bags the last thing I want to do is go wait in line and talk to a baggage agent. I guess it's a good program for people with time on their hands but it's 1/10 flights where I'm not hustling to go get in a car rental line, try to catch a ferry, etc.
I think the mechanics of this "guarantee" are a joke.
I think the mechanics of this "guarantee" are a joke.
#15
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Philly, Madrid
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold
Posts: 2,591
He was wrong.
His super was wrong.
Take badge numbers or names and contact CS.
The language of the BSG is not ambiguous at all: “If your bags are not at baggage claim within 20 minutes of your plane’s arrival at the gate, we’ll offer you a $25 discount code for use on a future Alaska Airlines flight, or 2,500 Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ bonus miles.”
Your bags. Not the first bag.
Personally, I take miles.
His super was wrong.
Take badge numbers or names and contact CS.
The language of the BSG is not ambiguous at all: “If your bags are not at baggage claim within 20 minutes of your plane’s arrival at the gate, we’ll offer you a $25 discount code for use on a future Alaska Airlines flight, or 2,500 Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ bonus miles.”
Your bags. Not the first bag.
Personally, I take miles.
I've had many 'arguments' with agents (mostly at EWR and SAN) that use the same argument insisting that the policy is first bag off the belt. I do believe that this is what they are told by their local supervisors, but it doesn't change the fact that they are wrong. The wording of the policy is clear, they just pretend that it means something else.