737-800 (738) Cabin Refresh
Aug 28, 2022, 2:02 pm
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737-800 (738) Cabin Refresh
Per the big fleet renewal announcement a few months ago, Alaska said the first 737-800 cabin refresh would take place in August. Does anyone have any info on whether that actually happened? And is the finished product basically going to resemble the refreshed -700 interior, or is it something more?
Aug 28, 2022, 5:21 pm
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Per the big fleet renewal announcement a few months ago, Alaska said the first 737-800 cabin refresh would take place in August. Does anyone have any info on whether that actually happened? And is the finished product basically going to resemble the refreshed -700 interior, or is it something more?
Aug 28, 2022, 9:57 pm
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Yes. However, the 800’s are losing one of the aft lavs and getting 3 additional Y seats. When the cabin refit is done the 800 will seat 177 total. AS says that PC and FC won’t see a reduction in seat pitch. In total the 800 will get new Bulkhead Mural, Cabin Dividers Personal Device Holders, carpet, new seat cushions and the new FC seat. They also announced that 2 of those 800’s will be converted to all cargo in 2023.
Last edited by Tack; Aug 29, 2022 at 6:58 am
Aug 29, 2022, 12:30 am
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Yes. However, the 800’s are losing one of the aft lavs and getting 3 additional Y seats. When the cabin refit is done the 800 will seat 177 total. AS says that PC and FC won’t see a reduction in seat pitch. In total the 800 will get new Bulkhead Mural, Cabin Dividers Personal Device Holders, carpet, new seat cushions and the new FC seat. They also announced that 2 of those 800’s will be converted to all cargo in 2023.
DL is at 160, UA is at 166, and AA is at 172 on their 800s, respectively.
So you’re saying AS is going denser than AA? What’s the main cabin pitch going to be? 29 inches?
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Aug 29, 2022, 6:46 am
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How are they going from 159 to 177 seats by removing one lav and adding 3 seats? That a net seat addition of 18 seats!
DL is at 160, UA is at 166, and AA is at 172 on their 800s, respectively.
So you’re saying AS is going denser than AA? What’s the main cabin pitch going to be? 29 inches?
DL is at 160, UA is at 166, and AA is at 172 on their 800s, respectively.
So you’re saying AS is going denser than AA? What’s the main cabin pitch going to be? 29 inches?
Last edited by Tack; Aug 29, 2022 at 7:37 am
Aug 29, 2022, 9:06 am
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Aug 29, 2022, 9:18 am
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I don't think it's arguable. GAs spend a great deal of time trying to convince later boarding groups to gate check bags. FAs spend a lot of time trying to play Tetris, and ramp agents are required to get those bags from the jet bridge to the belly of the aircraft. Reducing that workload for all three groups could be a significant time savings.
Aug 29, 2022, 9:21 am
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I don't think it's arguable. GAs spend a great deal of time trying to convince later boarding groups to gate check bags. FAs spend a lot of time trying to play Tetris, and ramp agents are required to get those bags from the jet bridge to the belly of the aircraft. Reducing that workload for all three groups could be a significant time savings.
There's a cost to bins and Alaska doesn't monetize carry-ons. Spending money on things they don't get revenue for (or reduced operational costs for) isn't a good business decision.
Feel free to present data on bin size vs. boarding times.
Aug 29, 2022, 9:24 am
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I still see the word "could" in your assertion. It's arguable because you're presenting no data that larger bins change onboarding times.
There's a cost to bins and Alaska doesn't monetize carry-ons. Spending money on things they don't get revenue for (or reduced operational costs for) isn't a good business decision.
Feel free to present data on bin size vs. boarding times.
There's a cost to bins and Alaska doesn't monetize carry-ons. Spending money on things they don't get revenue for (or reduced operational costs for) isn't a good business decision.
Feel free to present data on bin size vs. boarding times.
Aug 29, 2022, 9:49 am
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I'd expect that keeping the passengers happy in that there's a high likelihood of not having to gate check a bag is a good business decision, but then what do I know. And lest we forget that it isn't only the basic fares "suffering" the gate check fate, it is high value customers with unexpectedly tight connections.