Mixed Cabin Award Booking
#1
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Join Date: Mar 2016
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Mixed Cabin Award Booking
Hi guys, I had a question. I was playing around with award bookings from HNL to Tokyo in business class. Of course, JAL is the only airline that flies direct to Tokyo from HNL, and they pretty much have nothing available. However, I found some mixed cabin award availability on AA, by going through LAX from HNL. The awesome thing is that the business class segment is from LAX to HND, with the Coach class being from HNL to LAX. My question is, would I at least be given Coach + or whatever the AA more legroom seats are called? And would I get AA lounge access at HNL, or only at LAX?
#3
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Unless you have some way to get E+ seats (e.g. AA status) a Y booking will not give you access, even though it might be part of an itinerary that includes business class for another segment.
Lounge access rules are usually based on the maximum any direct connecting flight will give you, so indeed you will get AA lounge access at HNL as well.
Lounge access rules are usually based on the maximum any direct connecting flight will give you, so indeed you will get AA lounge access at HNL as well.
#4
Join Date: Mar 2010
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JL also fly to Kona. You might look to see if they have something available during your preferred travel period. That would probably require purchasing a staging flight HNL-KOA, but that might be preferable to HNL-LAX-TYO.
#5
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Not sure 5.5 hours in Y + 11.5 hours in J is better than 8 hours in Y, especially since HNL-TYO is a daytime flight…
Zipair has some very reasonable cash J fares on HNL-TYO fwiw
Zipair has some very reasonable cash J fares on HNL-TYO fwiw
#6
Join Date: Feb 2015
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This is an example of what drives me crazy when searching Business Class or First Award travel.
Miles required are for highest cabin, there has to be a way to filter mixed cabin out.
SEA / HAM
This itinerary is not entirely in Business Class.
Miles required are for highest cabin, there has to be a way to filter mixed cabin out.
SEA / HAM
This itinerary is not entirely in Business Class.
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2047
SEA
to
PDX
First Class
664
PDX
to
KEF
Coach
510
KEF
to
HAM
Coach
#7
Join Date: Dec 2021
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This is an example of what drives me crazy when searching Business Class or First Award travel.
Miles required are for highest cabin, there has to be a way to filter mixed cabin out.
SEA / HAM
This itinerary is not entirely in Business Class.
Miles required are for highest cabin, there has to be a way to filter mixed cabin out.
SEA / HAM
This itinerary is not entirely in Business Class.
2047
SEA
to
PDX
First Class
664
PDX
to
KEF
Coach
510
KEF
to
HAM
Coach
This of course won't work for searching for true F awards as you'll get those AS itineraries as well as AA itineraries with a domestic segment in First and the long-haul international segment in Coach, but it works great for finding available Business class travel
#8
Join Date: Mar 2010
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One trick I've found for international business award travel is to use the Award calendar. Because AS is "First Class", not "Business", if the international segment is not available in Business this will not show an itinerary that's only "availabe" as a mixed cabin award with an AS segment in first and the international segment in Coach. It will show me mixed cabin itineraries with an AS flight in Main to get me from SEA to SFO or LAX with the long haul flight in Business, but I'm okay with that as opposed to the alternative. Plus, with that sort of itinerary I can always set an ExpertFlyer alert for E space and call if any shows up.
This of course won't work for searching for true F awards as you'll get those AS itineraries as well as AA itineraries with a domestic segment in First and the long-haul international segment in Coach, but it works great for finding available Business class travel
This of course won't work for searching for true F awards as you'll get those AS itineraries as well as AA itineraries with a domestic segment in First and the long-haul international segment in Coach, but it works great for finding available Business class travel
#9
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It's a great feature that UA has. Shouldn't be too hard for a competent IT dept. to program this.
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#12
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Booked via app a crazy itinerary akl-dfw-aus-(overnight)-lax (last leg at 6am) for 80 K because I thought it was all in j. Not disclosed that it was a mixed cabin itinerary.
I get the email showing what a sh*t-show I booked (trans pac in coach) and the app isn’t even displaying it yet to cancel.
i suppose if I cancel within 24 hours, l get the partner fee back- but why do they allow this? Mixed itineraries are at least disclosed on the web.
I guess arguing that I should be in first is futile?
Doesn’t show Y
I get the email showing what a sh*t-show I booked (trans pac in coach) and the app isn’t even displaying it yet to cancel.
i suppose if I cancel within 24 hours, l get the partner fee back- but why do they allow this? Mixed itineraries are at least disclosed on the web.
I guess arguing that I should be in first is futile?
Doesn’t show Y
#14
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Booked via app a crazy itinerary akl-dfw-aus-(overnight)-lax (last leg at 6am) for 80 K because I thought it was all in j. Not disclosed that it was a mixed cabin itinerary.
I get the email showing what a sh*t-show I booked (trans pac in coach) and the app isn’t even displaying it yet to cancel.
i suppose if I cancel within 24 hours, l get the partner fee back- but why do they allow this? Mixed itineraries are at least disclosed on the web.
I guess arguing that I should be in first is futile?
I get the email showing what a sh*t-show I booked (trans pac in coach) and the app isn’t even displaying it yet to cancel.
i suppose if I cancel within 24 hours, l get the partner fee back- but why do they allow this? Mixed itineraries are at least disclosed on the web.
I guess arguing that I should be in first is futile?
#15
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Booked via app a crazy itinerary akl-dfw-aus-(overnight)-lax (last leg at 6am) for 80 K because I thought it was all in j. Not disclosed that it was a mixed cabin itinerary.
I get the email showing what a sh*t-show I booked (trans pac in coach) and the app isn’t even displaying it yet to cancel.
i suppose if I cancel within 24 hours, l get the partner fee back- but why do they allow this? Mixed itineraries are at least disclosed on the web.
I guess arguing that I should be in first is futile?
I get the email showing what a sh*t-show I booked (trans pac in coach) and the app isn’t even displaying it yet to cancel.
i suppose if I cancel within 24 hours, l get the partner fee back- but why do they allow this? Mixed itineraries are at least disclosed on the web.
I guess arguing that I should be in first is futile?
While I agree the APP falls short in showing the mixed cabin itinerary before adding it to the cart, there is ample warning before actually purchasing it. Using the website for award searches indicates mixed cabin itineraries in the search results. Unfortunately, some don't heed those either.
James
Last edited by Flying for Fun; Apr 3, 2023 at 12:21 pm