Mainline 737s Coming to PAE!
Jan 20, 2022, 1:14 pm
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Mainline 737s Coming to PAE!
https://www.heraldnet.com/business/a...e-field-fleet/
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In the next two months, Alaska Airlines will begin flying bigger jets on two of its 12 routes out of Paine Field.Beginning Feb. 17, Alaska will add Boeing 737 aircraft to serve Phoenix, followed by 737 service to Las Vegas that starts March 18.
Neither the Federal Aviation Administration nor the airport owner can dictate what type of aircraft a commercial airline employs at an airfield. As long as the aircraft can safely operate at the facility, airplane choice is up to the commercial carrier. Public use airports such as Paine Field cannot deny access to an aircraft operator if they can safely operate at the facility, according to FAA regulations.
Jan 20, 2022, 1:28 pm
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How much O/D traffic is on the route v. connecting traffic on the SEA end? If et least not-insubstantial minority of each flight is connecting, it doesn't make much sense for the route (as it would have to be quite limited in frequency).
Jan 20, 2022, 3:25 pm
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I am sure they could fill up a E75 on PAE-ANC in summer. Seattle is the biggest O&D market from ANC by a long shot. If PAE wasn’t slot restricted I bet it would have happened by now. As is they seemed to be focused on sun destinations and regional connectivity from PAE.
Jan 20, 2022, 3:34 pm
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Has PAE winter operations improved? Last time we hit a snow storm and SEA was operating decently but AS melted down at PAE because of lack of de-icing trucks and snowplows. This was precovid so hopefully operations have improved in the years since. Otherwise I'll keep avoiding anything but warm weather PAE flying.
Jan 20, 2022, 3:45 pm
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Has PAE winter operations improved? Last time we hit a snow storm and SEA was operating decently but AS melted down at PAE because of lack of de-icing trucks and snowplows. This was precovid so hopefully operations have improved in the years since. Otherwise I'll keep avoiding anything but warm weather PAE flying.
and this is radically different from SEA how?
Jan 20, 2022, 3:54 pm
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Well during same storm AS was operating 80%+ from SEA with some delays. AS from PAE it was right around 0%. So very different IMHO. In fact AS offered to let us change to SEA since they were doing fine there, but we had to pay our own way and no one would do the drive so it was a crappy night. PAE was pretty new and the airport basically said they didnt have much winter gear ready and what they had couldnt handle even the limited number of flights.
PAE is super nice for summer time, but with the limited schedule and distance from other carriers I guess its just avoid mostly in winter.
PAE is super nice for summer time, but with the limited schedule and distance from other carriers I guess its just avoid mostly in winter.
Jan 20, 2022, 4:02 pm
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Even then there can be reliability issues. For example I experienced a canceled flight last summer (to LAS) during a heat wave. Of course there can be canceled flights and IRROPS from any airport, but as a data point there were several SEA-LAS flights that day, none of which were canceled.
Having a 737 instead of a smaller plane might have helped in that situation? But I can't help but feel little bit of risk flying from PAE because if something goes wrong it's a long(er) slog vs. SEA to try to get an alternate flight.
Having a 737 instead of a smaller plane might have helped in that situation? But I can't help but feel little bit of risk flying from PAE because if something goes wrong it's a long(er) slog vs. SEA to try to get an alternate flight.
Jan 20, 2022, 4:27 pm
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Jan 20, 2022, 4:31 pm
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I mean PAE vs. SEA will never be apples to apples. Or any airport really haha. Thats why I was asking the question about PAE. Its decent enough but maybe not actually compelling to book over SEA unless its much cheaper for some reason or you live/work near PAE.
Jan 20, 2022, 4:32 pm
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Even then there can be reliability issues. For example I experienced a canceled flight last summer (to LAS) during a heat wave. Of course there can be canceled flights and IRROPS from any airport, but as a data point there were several SEA-LAS flights that day, none of which were canceled.
Having a 737 instead of a smaller plane might have helped in that situation? But I can't help but feel little bit of risk flying from PAE because if something goes wrong it's a long(er) slog vs. SEA to try to get an alternate flight.
Having a 737 instead of a smaller plane might have helped in that situation? But I can't help but feel little bit of risk flying from PAE because if something goes wrong it's a long(er) slog vs. SEA to try to get an alternate flight.
Jan 20, 2022, 4:48 pm
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Jan 21, 2022, 2:00 am
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Not only are PHX and LAS both getting 737s, but they’re both on -900s, and and each is keeping a 2nd (QX) daily departure. And the fares aren’t super cheap either. Clearly those markets are working
Jan 21, 2022, 9:25 am
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