Introducing aeroLOPA: A New [and Best] Portfolio of Detailed AS Cabin Seat Maps
Jul 29, 2021, 12:26 pm
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The A321 NEO seat map is now live.
Jul 29, 2021, 3:56 pm
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That’s the Bombardier Q400 up and running.
I understand there remains a few old Airbus configurations I have not covered but these aircraft appear to be parked. What are the chances of them re-entering service in their current condition?
I understand there remains a few old Airbus configurations I have not covered but these aircraft appear to be parked. What are the chances of them re-entering service in their current condition?
Jul 30, 2021, 7:57 pm
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Aug 16, 2021, 10:26 pm
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Aug 25, 2021, 9:14 pm
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Many thanks for your very kind words. I should point out, mapping the AS cabins is a desktop project but I have developed tools which enable accurate mapping. That said, errors will inevitably be present so it would be great if the AS faithful are able to identify any aspect of the maps they think could use some adjustments.
I read here that the 737-900 and 737-900ERs all received compact lavatories during the last refit cycle, so my thinking is including the 7M9 all three aircraft share a common seat layout. What surprised me is the diversity of seat pitches present in the 16F 162M configuration.
For example, here are the row pitch measurements in the 737-900ER cabin currently mapped
First class rows 1 to 4: pitch = 39.5"
Premium class rows 6 to 9: pitch = 34.5"
Main cabin rows 10 to 15: pitch = 31"
Overwing exit rows 16 and 17: pitch = 37.5"
Port side (ABC) rows 17 to 32: pitch = 32"
Starboard side (DEF) rows 17 to 34: pitch = 30.5"
Note, the Premium Class seats are indicated with "Khaki" accents
I read here that the 737-900 and 737-900ERs all received compact lavatories during the last refit cycle, so my thinking is including the 7M9 all three aircraft share a common seat layout. What surprised me is the diversity of seat pitches present in the 16F 162M configuration.
For example, here are the row pitch measurements in the 737-900ER cabin currently mapped
First class rows 1 to 4: pitch = 39.5"
Premium class rows 6 to 9: pitch = 34.5"
Main cabin rows 10 to 15: pitch = 31"
Overwing exit rows 16 and 17: pitch = 37.5"
Port side (ABC) rows 17 to 32: pitch = 32"
Starboard side (DEF) rows 17 to 34: pitch = 30.5"
Note, the Premium Class seats are indicated with "Khaki" accents
The 737-900 has indeed different seatpitch depending on whether you are right or left of the aisle. Great to finally see someone going through the painful exercise of actually providing accurate seating information (unlike seatguru that give averages). The left and right sides are notably different and a world of difference comfort-wise.
I would love to have also information about the rows where the sidepanels protrude over the window seat at the shoulder level i.e. 3 to 5 inches in front of the front of the reclined seat. This is super annoying and reduces de facto usable shoulder width for window seats. No seating website provdes this information.
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Aug 31, 2021, 10:12 am
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Short narratives have been appended to each seat map which include seat product and info, plus dimensions etc. The new F seat (Recaro CL4710) also received some minor cosmetic changes - added cup holders, and the E175 row numbers have been corrected.
Aug 31, 2021, 1:34 pm
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Thanks for a great site! Just a couple observations:
1. As I'm sure you're aware, the Q400 page doesn't have any seat description information. I know I depend a lot on seat width, in particular, to determine whether a particular seat will be comfortable (I'm tall but with disproportionately short legs so pitch isn't usually a problem, but there's nothing I can do about broad shoulders!).
2. I think the overhead bin description for the E175 might be a bit optimistic. Unless things have changed in the last10 months, the overhead in F is smaller on the left side of the plane (yes, a 22" bag could fit, but only if it's loaded longitudinally).
1. As I'm sure you're aware, the Q400 page doesn't have any seat description information. I know I depend a lot on seat width, in particular, to determine whether a particular seat will be comfortable (I'm tall but with disproportionately short legs so pitch isn't usually a problem, but there's nothing I can do about broad shoulders!).
2. I think the overhead bin description for the E175 might be a bit optimistic. Unless things have changed in the last10 months, the overhead in F is smaller on the left side of the plane (yes, a 22" bag could fit, but only if it's loaded longitudinally).
Aug 31, 2021, 2:49 pm
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I added a short description of the Q400 cabin
The description of the E175 overhead bins came straight from Embraer’s site but I appreciate this would apply only to the main cabin. I will do some research into the F cabin lockers and try to make a clear informative distinction
76 B/E Aerospace Model-945 seats arranged in pairs
Seat width: 16.8”
Pitch: 31”
Recline: 1.2”
Seat width: 16.8”
Pitch: 31”
Recline: 1.2”
Sep 19, 2021, 6:13 pm
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I read here that the 737-900 and 737-900ERs all received compact lavatories during the last refit cycle, so my thinking is including the 7M9 all three aircraft share a common seat layout. What surprised me is the diversity of seat pitches present in the 16F 162M configuration.
For example, here are the row pitch measurements in the 737-900ER cabin currently mapped
First class rows 1 to 4: pitch = 39.5"
Premium class rows 6 to 9: pitch = 34.5"
Main cabin rows 10 to 15: pitch = 31"
Overwing exit rows 16 and 17: pitch = 37.5"
Port side (ABC) rows 17 to 32: pitch = 32"
Starboard side (DEF) rows 17 to 34: pitch = 30.5"
For example, here are the row pitch measurements in the 737-900ER cabin currently mapped
First class rows 1 to 4: pitch = 39.5"
Premium class rows 6 to 9: pitch = 34.5"
Main cabin rows 10 to 15: pitch = 31"
Overwing exit rows 16 and 17: pitch = 37.5"
Port side (ABC) rows 17 to 32: pitch = 32"
Starboard side (DEF) rows 17 to 34: pitch = 30.5"
Also, it looks like you need to make a minor correction in the table above. Row 17 shows up as both an exit row as well as a non-exit row. I noticed the repeated row 17 for each of 737-900, 737900ER, and 737-MAX9.
Mar 5, 2022, 5:43 am
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I added a short description of the Q400 cabin
The description of the E175 overhead bins came straight from Embraer’s site but I appreciate this would apply only to the main cabin. I will do some research into the F cabin lockers and try to make a clear informative distinction
The description of the E175 overhead bins came straight from Embraer’s site but I appreciate this would apply only to the main cabin. I will do some research into the F cabin lockers and try to make a clear informative distinction
They are fixed in place.
They also offer no window sun shades, nor lavatory sinks, but that's another story.
Mar 7, 2022, 7:47 am
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Mar 7, 2022, 10:48 am
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