Alaska selling Upgrades priority over Elites?
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Alaska selling Upgrades priority over Elites?
Just one data point. Bought a last minute ticket for non status passenger. It was within 24 hours of departure. There was no blue F showing. Purchased ticket and then went to check in right after. Offered upgrade to First for $29. This was on SFO-LAS.
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0) Sell a full fare FC ticket at anytime
1) Process FC upgrade list until FC full or list empty
2) Sell FC upgrades
There used to be a table of upgrade cost in USD based on flight distance, but all I can find remaining is the cost based on miles; however, AS has added to the page TOD upgrades. Link: https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...class-upgrades . Based on the wording, it would sound like TOD upgrades could occur before the flight is handed over to gate control. I will follow up with AS for clarification.
I want to guess that TOD upgrades are only present if the FC upgrade list has already been processed because of this wording:
Upgrades are subject to availability as "U" Class may not be available on all flights.
Last edited by anteater; Feb 10, 2021 at 9:47 am
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I have seen this. If it happens, report it to AS. After speaking with CC, they agreed the process should be:
0) Sell a full fare FC ticket at anytime
1) Process FC upgrade list until FC full or list empty
2) Sell FC upgrades
There used to be a table of upgrade cost in USD based on flight distance, but all I can find remaining is the cost based on miles; however, AS has added to the page TOD upgrades. Link: https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...class-upgrades . Based on the wording, it would sound like TOD upgrades could occur before the flight is handed over to gate control. I will follow up with AS for clarification.
I want to guess that TOD upgrades are only present if the FC upgrade list has already been processed because of this wording:
If U space is available prior to gate control, the upgrade processor should have assigned it to a passenger on the FC upgrade list. The only caveat I can think of is if the only remaining guests on the upgrade list are traveling together (2 PAX per party) and the U space is "1".
0) Sell a full fare FC ticket at anytime
1) Process FC upgrade list until FC full or list empty
2) Sell FC upgrades
There used to be a table of upgrade cost in USD based on flight distance, but all I can find remaining is the cost based on miles; however, AS has added to the page TOD upgrades. Link: https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...class-upgrades . Based on the wording, it would sound like TOD upgrades could occur before the flight is handed over to gate control. I will follow up with AS for clarification.
I want to guess that TOD upgrades are only present if the FC upgrade list has already been processed because of this wording:
If U space is available prior to gate control, the upgrade processor should have assigned it to a passenger on the FC upgrade list. The only caveat I can think of is if the only remaining guests on the upgrade list are traveling together (2 PAX per party) and the U space is "1".
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My last two FC upgrades have come around T-2/3 hours so it appears they could be waiting until the bitter end to be sure no no buys a ticket. I love the upgrades but have been somewhat surprised AS doesn't just try to sell them rather than give them away.
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I have seen this. If it happens, report it to AS. After speaking with CC, they agreed the process should be:
0) Sell a full fare FC ticket at anytime
1) Process FC upgrade list until FC full or list empty
2) Sell FC upgrades
There used to be a table of upgrade cost in USD based on flight distance, but all I can find remaining is the cost based on miles; however, AS has added to the page TOD upgrades. Link: https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...class-upgrades . Based on the wording, it would sound like TOD upgrades could occur before the flight is handed over to gate control. I will follow up with AS for clarification.
I want to guess that TOD upgrades are only present if the FC upgrade list has already been processed because of this wording:
If U space is available prior to gate control, the upgrade processor should have assigned it to a passenger on the FC upgrade list. The only caveat I can think of is if the only remaining guests on the upgrade list are traveling together (2 PAX per party) and the U space is "1".
0) Sell a full fare FC ticket at anytime
1) Process FC upgrade list until FC full or list empty
2) Sell FC upgrades
There used to be a table of upgrade cost in USD based on flight distance, but all I can find remaining is the cost based on miles; however, AS has added to the page TOD upgrades. Link: https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...class-upgrades . Based on the wording, it would sound like TOD upgrades could occur before the flight is handed over to gate control. I will follow up with AS for clarification.
I want to guess that TOD upgrades are only present if the FC upgrade list has already been processed because of this wording:
If U space is available prior to gate control, the upgrade processor should have assigned it to a passenger on the FC upgrade list. The only caveat I can think of is if the only remaining guests on the upgrade list are traveling together (2 PAX per party) and the U space is "1".
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Well, if they are waiting until the bitter end to process elite upgrades then they are trying to sell them (for whatever a F class ticket sells for) before giving them away. Loyalty programs are big business for airlines and knocking out your 75Ks from the F cabin to get $29 from someone who flies once a year isn't going to work from a financial standpoint (in the long run).
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Well, if they are waiting until the bitter end to process elite upgrades then they are trying to sell them (for whatever a F class ticket sells for) before giving them away. Loyalty programs are big business for airlines and knocking out your 75Ks from the F cabin to get $29 from someone who flies once a year isn't going to work from a financial standpoint (in the long run).
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People report seeing this from time to time but I never have. If/when I do, my plan is to purchase the upgrade and submit it to Alaska for reimbursement. That way I still get the upgrade and also have documentation of the event, which will hopefully lead to remedial training for the agent(s) who sold the upgrade.
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People report seeing this from time to time but I never have. If/when I do, my plan is to purchase the upgrade and submit it to Alaska for reimbursement. That way I still get the upgrade and also have documentation of the event, which will hopefully lead to remedial training for the agent(s) who sold the upgrade.
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People report seeing this from time to time but I never have. If/when I do, my plan is to purchase the upgrade and submit it to Alaska for reimbursement. That way I still get the upgrade and also have documentation of the event, which will hopefully lead to remedial training for the agent(s) who sold the upgrade.
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Good idea until the flight has been transferred to Gate Control. Once this occurs, it should no longer show up in reservations for booking.