UAPremierExec

I just did a search of 15 Oct - 31 of JNU/SEA for "U" space in Sabre. *NOT a single seat*. I also checked YVR-SEA for the same time period: ZERO.

JNU-ANC: ZERO
SFO-LAX: ZERO
SEA-EUG: ZERO (yes, I know all flights but 1 are a Dash 8, did this for litmus test)
SFO-SAN: ZERO

and finally, the all so lucrative-never-EVER get an upgrade: SIT-JNU: ZERO

I do think its time that Alaska at least considers a 6 month extension of our GGUs, at least.

15OCT THU JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73H S 0 TQ DC /E
SEE JM*1 320376*CHARTER HTL SEA*DBLE PTS*149 USD/DR.
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16OCT FRI JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.
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17OCT SAT JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E
SEE JM*1 LOTTE HOTEL SEATTLE* GRAND OPENING 24SEP*10PCT OFF BAR
SEE JM*2 CW *RADISSON REWARDS FOR BUSINESS* 20 POINTS PER USD.
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18OCT SUN JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.
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19OCT MON JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.
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20OCT TUE JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.
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21OCT WED JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.
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22OCT THU JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73H S 0 DC /E
SEE JM*1 320376*CHARTER HOTEL SEA*CHIC CURIO BY HILTON*DWNTN.
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23OCT FRI JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.
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24OCT SAT JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E
SEE JM*1 LOTTE HOTEL SEATTLE* GRAND OPENING 24SEP*10PCT OFF BAR
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25OCT SUN JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.
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26OCT MON JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E
SEE JM*1 26646 MOTIF SEATTLE*CENTER OF CITY*143.2 USD/DR.
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27OCT TUE JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.
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28OCT WED JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.
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29OCT THU JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73H S 0 DC /E
SEE JM*1 CW *RADISSON REWARDS FOR BUSINESS*20PCT COMMISSION.
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30OCT FRI JNU/Z-8 SEA/PDT‡1
1AS 176 U0 JNUSEA N 600A 920A 73J S 0 DC /E
2AS 66 U0 JNUSEA 096 805P 1127P 73G 0 DC /E
3AS 60 U0 JNUSEA N 725A 1204P 73J S 1 DC /E
4AS 64 U0 JNUSEA 096 130P 819P 73G S 3 DC /E
5AS 65 U0 JNUANC 090 110P 254P 73G 0 DC /E
6AS 102 U0 SEA 100 340P 803P 73J S 0 DC /E.

DUT

Are U and A seats tied somehow to the same inventory?

Seems like lots of international longhaul Business and first class seats are available from Alaska gateway cities, but I cannot seem to find any first class award seats on Alaska from Anchorage to Seattle (November-December) to connect with longhaul partner, only coach class…

Thanks, DUT

be_rettSEA

I don't believe there's a direct tie (other than loose tie in terms of overall cabin bookings) between them. Saw handful of single A inventory available on transcons the past week or so when planning a trip, while U was always 0. Couldn't ever pin down a rationale for A compared to cash F fares either. Saw some still selling I fares with 0 A, and some with Only F or P with an A for sale..

eponymous_coward

Yeah, I have questions about revenue management (I < K, A but no U, etc) but I don't even play someone who works in revenue management on TV. Either they know what they are doing, or they are needlessly angering some elites who believe (quite correctly) their GGUs are worthless + leaving money on the table. I'm in no position to judge beyond their overall business success.

jiburi

While nothing is certain, I believe AS will bring back U when pandemic emergency is over and provide us with full 1 year extension of the certs. Until then, we have to be patience.

Jiburi

PDXPremier

I'm not saying this as a critique, but I really do think AS has pulled 100% of U space beyond T-24 for the time being. That's not to say you won't be auto-upgraded beyond T-24, but there is zero chance that U space will stick around long enough to use a GGU.

fly747first

My vote goes for AS' Rev Mgmt team often being incompetent since I have interviewed several of them... most couldn't even pass a simple math test

anteater

I’ve stayed this elsewhere, but it would be nice if Alaska posted an update to the Elite benefits which reflect the current state of their operations. Specifically, minimal or no U space operationally means MVP/G/75k shouldn’t expect an upgrade prior to T-24 or gate control.

Otherwise, telling elites to still expect a complimentary upgrade (based on space) at 48 72 and 120 hours is disingenuous, because they drastically changed it.

eponymous_coward

Funny, doesn’t really explain their airline financials does it? Zero chapter 11s. So far fending off Southwest and Delta incursions in their markets. The bones of other airlines with fancier premium products all around them (which we ALL know are how everyone judges airlines here on FT).

I do so love it when the FlyerTalk C Suite shows up though. Cheers.

philemer

The dearth of U space has been discussed for a long time on this forum. I think we need to accept it.

rune87

Negative. Per my discussion with an AS rep..a few tiems now to validate consistency, 2020 Upgrade certs will expire as normal. With the extension of Elite status, new ones will be re-issued on Jan 1, expiring, Dec 31, 2021. So everything is being kept like normal.

Flying for Fun

GGUs expire at the end of the following year from when they are issued. Shouldn't that be 2022? Between January 12th & January 31st, 2020, I surpassed 50K AS+Partner EQM. The GGUs issued then are valid until December 31st, 2021. If GGUs issued in 2021 expire in 2021 then everything isn't being kept like normal.

From your understanding, is there a differentiation between those that will have an extended status in 2021 based on their 2019 earned EQM and those that earned their 2021 status organically in 2020? How about those that will qualify for 2022 Elite status with the January through April 2020 EQM rollover to January 2021? I will be starting January 2021 with 89K EQM.

James

rune87

If you earned status in 2019, your certs for 2020 qualifying year would be issued in 2019, giving the illusions of a year. If you organically re qualify for 75k in 2020, then your certs are issued when ever you hit that threshold and are valid until Dec31st, 2021. If you are going off of status extension they will be issued Jan 1, 2021. As far as EQM for 2022 go, as currently announced, subject to change like always, only the first 4 months of 2020 count. As far as I've gather there is no difference between organic earned and status extension in 2021, short of the extra 50k miles. AS may change their mind, but I'm doubtful at this point.

Flying for Fun

I was upgraded on my recent SFO-PHX flight at T-112 hours. I received the usual email. I understand your point, just not bothered by it.

James

Flying for Fun

So are you ascerting that Elites who earned their GGUs in 2019 for the 2020 status year and who may have used those said 2020 expiring certificates in 2019 or early 2020 will get another batch when their 2020 status is extended for another year in January 2021 but those that organically earned their status or a higher status in 2020 will not?

If that is the case then there is a differentiation between organic & extended status and contrary to what you believe.

James