Do non-revs have to answer the COVID-19 questions during check-in?
Sep 13, 2020, 9:03 pm
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Yeah, I would wager this was a lot less about COVID and a lot more about a bad hangover.
As for the questions, if someone has already decided they’re going to fly, would they really answer the questions in such a way that would make it seem like they’re anything less than completely healthy? I equate these questions to the same level of usefulness as the questions about hazmat in your luggage.
As for the questions, if someone has already decided they’re going to fly, would they really answer the questions in such a way that would make it seem like they’re anything less than completely healthy? I equate these questions to the same level of usefulness as the questions about hazmat in your luggage.
Sep 13, 2020, 9:07 pm
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Yeah, I would wager this was a lot less about COVID and a lot more about a bad hangover.
As for the questions, if someone has already decided they’re going to fly, would they really answer the questions in such a way that would make it seem like they’re anything less than completely healthy? I equate these questions to the same level of usefulness as the questions about hazmat in your luggage.
As for the questions, if someone has already decided they’re going to fly, would they really answer the questions in such a way that would make it seem like they’re anything less than completely healthy? I equate these questions to the same level of usefulness as the questions about hazmat in your luggage.
Sep 13, 2020, 9:15 pm
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Yeah, I doubt it was a hangover since she seemed (to me) to be perfectly healthy a few hours earlier on the flight she was working. I also realize folks who may feel sick may be less than truthful on that survey if they want to get where they are going bad enough, but I was curious if non-revs even had to take the survey in the first place (and I'm guessing the answer is no).
Sep 13, 2020, 10:06 pm
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I am going on the assumption that this was a non-rev, but I could be wrong. Since this crew started with me back in PDX, I am also assuming they were overnighting in AUS and flying out the next day which made me wonder what AS does in these situations where you have a sick crew member mid-trip. I doubt AUS is a FA base so wouldn't they have to deadhead someone to AUS or just cancel the flight?
Sep 13, 2020, 10:15 pm
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Sounds like a deadhead.
In theory the FA should have self-identified as sick in AUS, and gotten a hotel and taken herself off the flight. But in fairness to her, I can understand why she didn’t. She was (presumably) feeling fine that morning, worked two flights, and is now starting to feel ill. She’s in a strange city with no friends and no support system, and has an illness of unknown duration and severity coming on. The desire to get back to the nest is a pretty strong one, and can cause one to say ‘well I’m not _that_ sick’
That’s why I’d complain to the DOT — the crew needs to have the power to take her off.
In theory the FA should have self-identified as sick in AUS, and gotten a hotel and taken herself off the flight. But in fairness to her, I can understand why she didn’t. She was (presumably) feeling fine that morning, worked two flights, and is now starting to feel ill. She’s in a strange city with no friends and no support system, and has an illness of unknown duration and severity coming on. The desire to get back to the nest is a pretty strong one, and can cause one to say ‘well I’m not _that_ sick’
That’s why I’d complain to the DOT — the crew needs to have the power to take her off.
Sep 13, 2020, 10:36 pm
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Sounds like a deadhead.
In theory the FA should have self-identified as sick in AUS, and gotten a hotel and taken herself off the flight. But in fairness to her, I can understand why she didn’t. She was (presumably) feeling fine that morning, worked two flights, and is now starting to feel ill. She’s in a strange city with no friends and no support system, and has an illness of unknown duration and severity coming on. The desire to get back to the nest is a pretty strong one, and can cause one to say ‘well I’m not _that_ sick’
That’s why I’d complain to the DOT — the crew needs to have the power to take her off.
In theory the FA should have self-identified as sick in AUS, and gotten a hotel and taken herself off the flight. But in fairness to her, I can understand why she didn’t. She was (presumably) feeling fine that morning, worked two flights, and is now starting to feel ill. She’s in a strange city with no friends and no support system, and has an illness of unknown duration and severity coming on. The desire to get back to the nest is a pretty strong one, and can cause one to say ‘well I’m not _that_ sick’
That’s why I’d complain to the DOT — the crew needs to have the power to take her off.
Sep 14, 2020, 1:48 am
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Edit: the non-rev check-in workflow even surveys dress code.
Sep 14, 2020, 5:29 am
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A PAX vomiting next to you is certainly concerning, upsetting but to draw the conclusion they were carrying a contagious life threatening disease is a bit of a leap. It could have been anything from a hangover, to a migraine, to pregnancy morning sickness in case of a female, food alergy reaction or any of a number of stomach churning issues which donnot endanger other human life. I would have moved and if asked by new row mate, decribed the situation. This covid thing has made everyone unneasy for sure.
Sep 14, 2020, 6:48 am
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A PAX vomiting next to you is certainly concerning, upsetting but to draw the conclusion they were carrying a contagious life threatening disease is a bit of a leap. It could have been anything from a hangover, to a migraine, to pregnancy morning sickness in case of a female, food alergy reaction or any of a number of stomach churning issues which donnot endanger other human life. I would have moved and if asked by new row mate, decribed the situation. This covid thing has made everyone unneasy for sure.
Did anyone engage the passenger, even though she is an employee, she is still a human being and ask if there was anything they could do to help? If I get Migraines and don't get a chance to close my eyes/lay down I sometimes throw up.
This Covid stuff is really warping us as a society. We ca't run and cower forever.
Sep 14, 2020, 7:02 am
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A PAX vomiting next to you is certainly concerning, upsetting but to draw the conclusion they were carrying a contagious life threatening disease is a bit of a leap. It could have been anything from a hangover, to a migraine, to pregnancy morning sickness in case of a female, food alergy reaction or any of a number of stomach churning issues which donnot endanger other human life. I would have moved and if asked by new row mate, decribed the situation. This covid thing has made everyone unneasy for sure.
Sep 14, 2020, 7:25 am
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The questions are irrelevant. What is relevant is that an individual exhibiting symptoms was permitted to board and remain aboard a commercial aircraft operating in the US. The insipid questions are simply there for clueless passengers and there should be no reason to ask an employee. The employee should have been -- and likely was -- trained to self-report and isolate pending medical attention.
Hence the reason to report it to AS and DOT, even though the flight itself is in the past.
Hence the reason to report it to AS and DOT, even though the flight itself is in the past.
Sep 14, 2020, 8:23 am
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Sep 14, 2020, 8:46 am
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Wouldn't flyertalk be so much better if the only commentary allowed was that made by those experiencing the very issue at the very moment they were posting it?
Sep 14, 2020, 10:09 am
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This x100.
Did anyone engage the passenger, even though she is an employee, she is still a human being and ask if there was anything they could do to help? If I get Migraines and don't get a chance to close my eyes/lay down I sometimes throw up.
This Covid stuff is really warping us as a society. We ca't run and cower forever.
Did anyone engage the passenger, even though she is an employee, she is still a human being and ask if there was anything they could do to help? If I get Migraines and don't get a chance to close my eyes/lay down I sometimes throw up.
This Covid stuff is really warping us as a society. We ca't run and cower forever.