Partner flight, no-partner marketed. Miles ?
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Partner flight, no-partner marketed. Miles ?
What are people's experiences with flights operated by a partner, but marketed by non-partner? For example a BA flight with an IB flight number, or KE flight with a DL flight number. Have you gotten your miles?
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If the rules are followed, you should get no miles. YMMV if you try manual submission:
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Flights must fall within the eligible flight number range below, and your flight must be marketed and operated by British Airways.
Qualify for mileage accrual
Flights must fall within the eligible flight number range below, and your flight must be marketed and operated by Korean Air.Eligible flight numbers
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Flights must fall within the eligible flight number range below, and your flight must be marketed and operated by British Airways.
Eligible flight numbers
0001–05312200–22398000–80200539–14992250–22898200– 82992030–20452540–27998450–84972061–20692900–29992 150–21696200–6449To ensure flight credit, the two-letter airline code (BA) must precede the flight number (for example, BA XXXX) on your ticket receipt or boarding pass.
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In general if operated by a partner it will earn points with a manual request. EK has different wording so that may be an exception. In reality YMMV and AS could change its interpretation at any time so there is always a risk of Zero
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If recently, sure, DL sold you a KE flight with a native flight number, not a codeshare and despite the flight having a DL ticket numbet AS credited your Mileage Plan account. Technically not eligible and often abused. This is why AS is now requesting invoices!
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As stated, AS is already starting to request invoices along with boarding passes. If pax contine sending in boarding passes for ineligible credit, it won't be long before there is a strict adherence to the clearly written rules. I guess you are in favour of that!
I had a legitimate QF flight purchased on QF BNE-SYD in February. It didn't post automatically. I requested a manual credit. AS added the flight to Mileage Plan in "pending" status and advised they had sent a request to QF to credit the miles. It sat in pending status for over a week before the miles finally posted.
But, hey! You do you as you always do while you suggest others not do what you do if it affects you! That is so you!
James
I had a legitimate QF flight purchased on QF BNE-SYD in February. It didn't post automatically. I requested a manual credit. AS added the flight to Mileage Plan in "pending" status and advised they had sent a request to QF to credit the miles. It sat in pending status for over a week before the miles finally posted.
But, hey! You do you as you always do while you suggest others not do what you do if it affects you! That is so you!
James
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So it's ok for you to abuse routings on awards (SFO-SEA-LAX, with a stopover in SEA, as a one-way for 5k miles) or companion fares, but not for people to request miles on partner-operated flights even if the marketing carrier is not a partner?
I think most of us here look for loopholes where we can find them. But if anyone is going to be throwing stones, it certainly shouldn't be you from your glass house.
I think most of us here look for loopholes where we can find them. But if anyone is going to be throwing stones, it certainly shouldn't be you from your glass house.
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So it's ok for you to abuse routings on awards (SFO-SEA-LAX, with a stopover in SEA, as a one-way for 5k miles) or companion fares, but not for people to request miles on partner-operated flights even if the marketing carrier is not a partner?
I think most of us here look for loopholes where we can find them. But if anyone is going to be throwing stones, it certainly shouldn't be you from your glass house.
I think most of us here look for loopholes where we can find them. But if anyone is going to be throwing stones, it certainly shouldn't be you from your glass house.
What has companion fares got to do with crediting non-partner marketed flights to Mileage Plan? Knowingly requesting a credit for an ineligible flight is fraud! That is abusive!
The stopover in SEA is something I have discussed at least three times and have never booked it. Only in the last iteration did it seem to spark interest, including from you. Where is it written that this is abusive if booked? Companion fare routings have been exampled by many bloggers over multiple years and continue to offer great value if you choose to use it and understand how it works. Where is it written that this is abusive if booked?
Again, you do you! I have never booked a codeshare flight and requested credit for it, marketed by a partner or not. I never chance not getting credit, but that is me.
You do excel at assumptions though, much easier than research and facts. For the record, I don't live in a glass house so yet another wrong assumption, like most, on your part.
James
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I don't get all this talking about flight club, loopholes exists because they are low priority to close. Everyone starts doing it, AS fixes it like the invoice request. There is a reason we don't talk about flight club.
Nothing wrong with sending in a request for partner operated flight. I sent my invoice in no problem with Dragon air coded, Cathay pacific operated flight. AS has in the past said its just fine to earn points on these.
Nothing wrong with sending in a request for partner operated flight. I sent my invoice in no problem with Dragon air coded, Cathay pacific operated flight. AS has in the past said its just fine to earn points on these.
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