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Old Mar 28, 2019, 10:50 pm
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Originally Posted by transportbiz
Noticed it about 4 months ago, seriously...a beta for 4 plus months.
How long was gmail "beta" for?
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Old Mar 29, 2019, 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by transportbiz
Noticed it about 4 months ago, seriously...a beta for 4 plus months.
Originally Posted by VegasGambler
How long was gmail "beta" for?
5 years! https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/t.../08google.html
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Old Mar 29, 2019, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by rt1flea
Agree that is not really a useful design. What could be presented on one screen now forces you to scroll endlessly and click "view more trips" at the bottom for more than 5 trips.

It's very VX-esque in design and in that it seems to actually be designed for mobile touch screen use. The VX website was basically unusable on desktop and only marginally better in mobile.

If you resize the desktop browser window by making it as narrow a possible, you will see that the trips are actually cards that are designed to be swiped horizontally. If you load up the beta trips page in a mobile device browser, you can see what they trying to do. It works OK, but still takes info that could be displayed in one screen, and forces you to swipe to multiple screens.

I do like that they have added the traveler name and some direct links to perform actions, but on a desktop browser with 8 trips to view, it's essentially useless.

I really hope this doesn't mean they are headed in the direction (like I think VX did) of a single site design for mobile and desktop that sacrifices functionality for the sake of mobile usability. Especially since they have a usable mobile site now and working apps that most mobile users will use anyway.
You know mobile is now > 50% of web usage, right?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...traffic-share/

Doesn't make the design decisions right, but desktop is now often not the default case for when someone is viewing your website.
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Old Mar 29, 2019, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Tracer_SEA
I'm surprised not to see a thread about this... Just logged in for the first time in a while and saw a link to opt in to a "beta" experience for My Trips.

Spoiler alert and big surprise -- it's a pile of $#@!. Lots of pics and random info, requires more scrolling to get to what I need. Mileage estimates don't take into account status.

The style actually looks like something VX designed but never got around to implementing.

Are they going to bring back avatars too??
Yep, ditto. Looks awful.

It is 100% inline with the push towards mobile and tablet-friendly displays where users quickly scroll through large amounts of vertical space looking for quick and easily digestible bits of data. That is NOT what works well on a regular webpage when opened on a PC/laptop/etc, where such layout just means tons of wasted space and dumbed down display of information.
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Old Mar 30, 2019, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
You know mobile is now > 50% of web usage, right?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...traffic-share/

Doesn't make the design decisions right, but desktop is now often not the default case for when someone is viewing your website.
Depends though, in this scenario it seems likely most people on mobile will have the app.

Also if they really wanted to optimize for mobile they’d just make the design responsive (e.g. different based on screen size / whether you’re on desktop or mobile).
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Old Mar 30, 2019, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by _fx
Depends though, in this scenario it seems likely most people on mobile will have the app.
Try applying a GGU from the app sometime. Or doing a flight change before T-24. Still a whole lot of stuff you can't do from it.

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Also if they really wanted to optimize for mobile they’d just make the design responsive (e.g. different based on screen size / whether you’re on desktop or mobile).
That is probably a better design decision (and like I said I am not justifying Alaska's web design decisions) but it's tricky: an iPad Pro has the same or more processing power as a recent desktop Mac running Intel, and MobileSafari isn't a slouch in terms of what it supports. You might want to optimize more on bandwidth, but most websites are kinda junky as far as that goes.
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Old Mar 30, 2019, 11:12 am
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
Try applying a GGU from the app sometime. Or doing a flight change before T-24. Still a whole lot of stuff you can't do from it.
Good point. It boggles my mind you can't do this stuff in the app -- maybe instead of making crappy design changes they should focus on app development. They could at least slap a in WebView or something and just show the same content as the website.

Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
That is probably a better design decision (and like I said I am not justifying Alaska's web design decisions) but it's tricky: an iPad Pro has the same or more processing power as a recent desktop Mac running Intel, and MobileSafari isn't a slouch in terms of what it supports. You might want to optimize more on bandwidth, but most websites are kinda junky as far as that goes.
The AS website is very tame, even older mobile devices on 3G should load it without trouble. So I don't think they need to worry about processing power or bandwidth. What they *should* optimize for is if I'm on a narrow phone screen vs a wide tablet or desktop one. This isn't hard to do, in fact they do it *right now* ... the Beta just does it badly.
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Old Apr 1, 2019, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by _fx
Depends though, in this scenario it seems likely most people on mobile will have the app.

Also if they really wanted to optimize for mobile they’d just make the design responsive (e.g. different based on screen size / whether you’re on desktop or mobile).
And use full screen in the IOS app on iPad, instead of compatibility mode.
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Old Apr 2, 2019, 8:36 am
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I guess my bigger issue is that they haven't done anything new visually on the website or the app for *years*, and *this* is what they come up with as the new look?

Also, I'd rather they add features and fix bugs in the old look instead...
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 8:57 am
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So they added a toggle for a more abbreviated trip list view which helps. Still seems overwhelmed with information I don't need and missing info I do.

But 3+ months into this "beta" the "Past Trips" section still has less than half of my actual past trips
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Old Aug 7, 2019, 2:53 pm
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It's gone as of today. Looks like the CSS is screwed up too, lots of bold
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Old Aug 9, 2019, 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by bmvaughn
It's gone as of today. Looks like the CSS is screwed up too, lots of bold
Appears it's back today. Oh well, there was a glimmer of hope for two days.
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 4:14 pm
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Thumbs down it's worse than "back" ...

from my last two visits to the full website in the past couple hours, it appears that the "new" beta version is now the default ... and it looks like AS web design accepted absolutely none of the comments enumerated upthread here

that said, there **IS** a link to the old version
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 4:17 pm
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Not the default for me, checked on Chrome on a PC
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 5:51 pm
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weird, I was using Chrome on a Dell laptop
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