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sltlyamusd Aug 22, 2019 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by jjmadison (Post 31443927)

RE: preference on seats, this is one of the few things I disagree with you on, James. Now that AS is again budgeting for F seat maintenance on the airbus fleet, I haven't had a dirty or malfunctioning seat in two months. Being 6', I appreciate the long leg rest, deep recline, and room enough to get out of the window seat without disturbing one's neighbor. I will never be able to use the flip down foot rest on the retrofitted airbus seats--anyone over 5'8" would be scrunched up. Lastly, I enjoy the in-seat back massager and adjustable lumbar support on the white leather seats. Many people don't realize they can completely adjust the position of the lumbar support with the buttons found inside the arm rest. Those adjustments make the seat comfortable for people of all sizes.

Agree about the VX white leather seats--I flew on ship 854 last week and the seats were fully functional and fairly clean. I also prefer window seats and love being able to get up without disturbing my neighbor, which I can't really do with the new seats.

mastergamindude Aug 22, 2019 5:53 pm

My luck paid out, I will be on N635VA!

mastergamindude Aug 22, 2019 7:17 pm


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So, at Village Pub at LAS, they have model aircraft of some of the airlines that fly to and from LAS. They still have a Virgin America model, ironically right next to an Alaska 737 model. Thought that was cool. Anyways, here she is, N635VA! My first time on a reconfiguration! Seat is 25A though, so no First Class footrest...

mastergamindude Aug 23, 2019 12:11 am


mastergamindude Aug 27, 2019 1:00 pm

N636VA should be back in service by 4:30 PM today.

rune87 Aug 27, 2019 1:57 pm

Finally got to try out one of the 16F A321neos....man that is a lovely experience in F. I really like the new seats, especially the footrest. Slightly quieter ride than the 900s, but the biggest thing is it overall felt roomier. I'm 6'4 and still had extra headroom. I sure hope Alaska keeps them in the long run.

mastergamindude Aug 30, 2019 2:21 am


Originally Posted by jjmadison (Post 31441392)
Actually, on the non-reconfigured Airbii, the FAs always allow (and sometimes encourage) you to keep any backpack or briefcase in front of you. There is enough room to do that.

Edit for context: referring to row 2. Row 1 still requires stowage in overhead.

Just now getting to this, but on my ex VX first flight, they refused to allow anyone’s bag by their feet. That’s strange.

Robt760 Aug 31, 2019 10:31 pm

A320 - Wow, Do they care ? (PMVA version)
 
What the heck ! I have no sympathy for how bad things have gotten with letting the Air Bus fleet go to crap, if it’s still in PMVA interior.

I had a recent flight that involved one of these, and one seat in the F cabin was in-op, and tagged as so. It happened to be my assigned seat and not discovered until I boarded. Kinda sucked, but lucked out in that another F seat was available. The THREE GAs and Station Mgr all working the flight had no idea the seat was in-op. Surprise surprise, none of the seats had power and FA had to manually move seats for the F passengers. Luckily the flight was only LAX-SFO. Flight was 2 hrs late. Got a “we’re sorry” email (nothing else) that evening. Not done yet.

Next flight, SFO-PDX, OH BOY, SAME PLANE. These GAs don’t know that there’s a broken F seat, but luckily I had been booked in a different F Seat. Same broken seats needing adjustment, same awesome FA that bit the bullet and made his good spirts deflect the stupid carelessness that’s going on with these planes. This flight was 2.5 hours late arriving at 1:30AM to PDX. Received another “sorry” 1 sentence email a few hours later.

What gives ? I’m doing my best to avoid any Airbus that’s not 321 (good luck figuring it out sometimes) with this airline. . Between neglect, lack of upgrades (only 8 seats) and poor reliability of these AB, What a major demerit to Alaska for not addressing this, and for lack of service recovery beyond that. They need to turn up the heat and get the reconfigurations DONE, so they can begin to have standards that are standard and not all over the page.

Cue the cheerleaders and naysayers....


RAD_PDX Aug 31, 2019 11:12 pm


Originally Posted by Robt760 (Post 31478241)
What the heck ! I have no sympathy for how bad things have gotten with letting the Air Bus fleet go to crap, if it’s still in PMVA interior.

I had a recent flight that involved one of these, and one seat in the F cabin was in-op, and tagged as so. It happened to be my assigned seat and not discovered until I boarded. Kinda sucked, but lucked out in that another F seat was available. The THREE GAs and Station Mgr all working the flight had no idea the seat was in-op. Surprise surprise, none of the seats had power and FA had to manually move seats for the F passengers. Luckily the flight was only LAX-SFO. Flight was 2 hrs late. Got a “we’re sorry” email (nothing else) that evening. Not done yet.

Next flight, SFO-PDX, OH BOY, SAME PLANE. These GAs don’t know that there’s a broken F seat, but luckily I had been booked in a different F Seat. Same broken seats needing adjustment, same awesome FA that bit the bullet and made his good spirts deflect the stupid carelessness that’s going on with these planes. This flight was 2.5 hours late arriving at 1:30AM to PDX. Received another “sorry” 1 sentence email a few hours later.

What gives ? I’m doing my best to avoid any Airbus that’s not 321 (good luck figuring it out sometimes) with this airline. . Between neglect, lack of upgrades (only 8 seats) and poor reliability of these AB, What a major demerit to Alaska for not addressing this, and for lack of service recovery beyond that. They need to turn up the heat and get the reconfigurations DONE, so they can begin to have standards that are standard and not all over the page.

Cue the cheerleaders and naysayers....


You are late to the party. The cheerleaders and naysayers have all opined in the litany of previous threads.

mastergamindude Sep 1, 2019 11:05 pm


Originally Posted by Robt760 (Post 31478241)
What the heck ! I have no sympathy for how bad things have gotten with letting the Air Bus fleet go to crap, if it’s still in PMVA interior.

I had a recent flight that involved one of these, and one seat in the F cabin was in-op, and tagged as so. It happened to be my assigned seat and not discovered until I boarded. Kinda sucked, but lucked out in that another F seat was available. The THREE GAs and Station Mgr all working the flight had no idea the seat was in-op. Surprise surprise, none of the seats had power and FA had to manually move seats for the F passengers. Luckily the flight was only LAX-SFO. Flight was 2 hrs late. Got a “we’re sorry” email (nothing else) that evening. Not done yet.

Next flight, SFO-PDX, OH BOY, SAME PLANE. These GAs don’t know that there’s a broken F seat, but luckily I had been booked in a different F Seat. Same broken seats needing adjustment, same awesome FA that bit the bullet and made his good spirts deflect the stupid carelessness that’s going on with these planes. This flight was 2.5 hours late arriving at 1:30AM to PDX. Received another “sorry” 1 sentence email a few hours later.

What gives ? I’m doing my best to avoid any Airbus that’s not 321 (good luck figuring it out sometimes) with this airline. . Between neglect, lack of upgrades (only 8 seats) and poor reliability of these AB, What a major demerit to Alaska for not addressing this, and for lack of service recovery beyond that. They need to turn up the heat and get the reconfigurations DONE, so they can begin to have standards that are standard and not all over the page.

Cue the cheerleaders and naysayers....


I know it’s kinda special with trendy VX merging with modern-traditional AS, but hasn’t this happened before with other mergers? Namely CO and UA, NW and DA, and AA and US? Where the dominant carrier (if that’s correct) neglects the interior config of the old airline during refitting?

northwesterner Sep 2, 2019 12:51 am


Originally Posted by mastergamindude (Post 31481194)

I know it’s kinda special with trendy VX merging with modern-traditional AS, but hasn’t this happened before with other mergers? Namely CO and UA, NW and DA, and AA and US? Where the dominant carrier (if that’s correct) neglects the interior config of the old airline during refitting?

I believe DL rapidly recovered all the NW seats with the blue leatherette ... and some of the exNW 757s were particularly rough beforehand.

Flying for Fun Sep 2, 2019 1:47 am

Unfortunately, the repair & maintenance of the prized white recliners fell by the wayside after the aquisition. Some were in a dire state at the time of the merger. When an aircraft seat only 3 years old at the time of merger is deteriorated to the point of requiring a blanket to cover it, there were definitely issues with VX maintenance and VX employees that weren't onboard with AS. That was the case and still is the case, IMHO, with VX inflight crew and has made the inflight experience inconsistent despite the cross fleeting that commenced in February. I think it is better, but not what it was pre-merger.

I can certainly understand not wanting to spend a lot of money on something that was problematic prior and ripping them out in short order for a new configuration. However, with the retrofits taking time, probably due in part to the delay of new aircraft procurement, at least a few have been reupholstered. Functionality and cleanliness of the mechanics is unknown. Lipstick on a pig?

The sooner they are brought out of the 70's the better. Until then, I will continue to avoid them.

James

nearlysober Sep 13, 2019 6:41 pm

Alright, finally worked my way into one of the white seats before they disappear. :)

N852VA on my way to ORD from SEA.

jjmadison Sep 14, 2019 2:56 pm


Originally Posted by nearlysober (Post 31522837)
Alright, finally worked my way into one of the white seats before they disappear. :)

N852VA on my way to ORD from SEA.

Make sure to try the back massager! The controls (assuming its working) are under the flip up armrest.

nearlysober Sep 16, 2019 12:39 pm

I don't think the back massage was working up to it's full potential. I could feel the lumbar support changing a bit, but it was quite mild. Was very surprised by the recline of the seat and how nice that adjustable foot rest is. I can see why people are going to miss the product, but I can also see how maintenance of those seats must be a pain with all the moving mechanized parts.


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