AS 737 SEA-DEN overweight, passengers offloaded, why?
Jun 21, 2014, 4:57 pm
#16
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Jun 23, 2014, 7:53 pm
#17
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Jun 23, 2014, 8:06 pm
#18
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offloading fuel means you have to destroy it. It is considered "contaminated" if you have to offload fuel nowadays.
What we don't know if this was an 800ETOPS or 800 standard, maybe there was an MEL on something mechanical that prevented the plane from flying at optimal speeds/whatnot. (MEL = Maintenance item that doesn't affect how the plane flies but just needs fixed sooner than later).
But yes, odd that an 800 would take a weight hit on a short route.
What we don't know if this was an 800ETOPS or 800 standard, maybe there was an MEL on something mechanical that prevented the plane from flying at optimal speeds/whatnot. (MEL = Maintenance item that doesn't affect how the plane flies but just needs fixed sooner than later).
But yes, odd that an 800 would take a weight hit on a short route.
Jun 23, 2014, 8:30 pm
#19
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I just read the thread title and thought it said "overweight passenger offloaded". This is definitely a case of punctuation being very important 
My first thought was, OMG! If they're offloading overweight passengers it won't be long before they start offloading overweight crew too. My days are numbered!!! 
My first thought was, OMG! If they're offloading overweight passengers it won't be long before they start offloading overweight crew too. My days are numbered!!!
Jun 23, 2014, 10:29 pm
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Empty a/c (no pax or fuel) = 100,000 pounds.
Pax and cargo = 40,000 pounds.
Fuel = 30,000 pounds.
Fuel burn for flight = 20,000 pounds.
So, plane leaves at a weight of (100,000 + 40,000 + 30,000) 170,000 pounds.
En route, it burns off 20,000 pounds of fuel so when it arrives at its destination, its expected to land at 150,000 pounds.
BUT, the aircraft's maximum landing weight is 140,000 pounds. Guess what, you're now 10,000 pounds overweight out of your origin.
Pax and cargo = 40,000 pounds.
Fuel = 30,000 pounds.
Fuel burn for flight = 20,000 pounds.
So, plane leaves at a weight of (100,000 + 40,000 + 30,000) 170,000 pounds.
En route, it burns off 20,000 pounds of fuel so when it arrives at its destination, its expected to land at 150,000 pounds.
BUT, the aircraft's maximum landing weight is 140,000 pounds. Guess what, you're now 10,000 pounds overweight out of your origin.
Jun 23, 2014, 11:18 pm
#23
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I just read the thread title and thought it said "overweight passenger offloaded". This is definitely a case of punctuation being very important My first thought was, OMG! If they're offloading overweight passengers it won't be long before they start offloading overweight crew too. My days are numbered!!!
My first thought was, OMG! If they're offloading overweight passengers it won't be long before they start offloading overweight crew too. My days are numbered!!!
Jun 24, 2014, 6:26 pm
#24
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VDB on AS....now that's a rare event these days (compared to DL or UA where it seems like almost every time you check-in, you get asked if you want to be put on the VDB list)....it's been since maybe the 90's or early 2000's that I got VDB on AS--what is the compensation these days?