What is the logic of not crediting some DL flight numbers?
Feb 11, 2013, 9:01 pm
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What is the logic of not crediting some DL flight numbers?
DL just redid the flight numbers to Pocatello, from 77XX to 74XX, rendering them ineligible for AS miles. What is the logic of AS excluding these flight numbers for credit? Since the SLC-PIH flight is a constant for me, this really hurts. Considering asking for a DL status match and ditching my (admittedly meager) AS status that I've kept for the past 7 years.
Feb 11, 2013, 9:24 pm
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Perhaps it is something in the contract with certain Delta commuter carriers. I'd let the MP know that it is a route that traditionally offered mileage credit, and now it isn't, and see what the answer (and possible solution) may be.
Feb 11, 2013, 9:36 pm
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Delta ocassionally changes flight numbers. One reason a partner's flight number would not receive credit would be that it is a code share with an airline that your airline doesn't code share with or acknowledge.
In this case, credit should be ok, and a call to AS will probably show that they haven't updated their list. The 3 or so daily flights look like simple Delta Connection flights operated by Sky West (OO).
About 2 years ago, DL moved many short haul, but DL operated flights out of DTW into the 7000 series, but I got AS credit as planned. Perhaps their credit awarding software looks at the operating carrier, origin, etc along with flight number on a daily basis.
In this case, credit should be ok, and a call to AS will probably show that they haven't updated their list. The 3 or so daily flights look like simple Delta Connection flights operated by Sky West (OO).
About 2 years ago, DL moved many short haul, but DL operated flights out of DTW into the 7000 series, but I got AS credit as planned. Perhaps their credit awarding software looks at the operating carrier, origin, etc along with flight number on a daily basis.
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Feb 11, 2013, 9:58 pm
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From the AS website, in table format:
Delta Air Lines Eligible Flight Numbers
0001 - 2399, 2400 - 2819, 2835 - 2849, 2850 - 3234
3274 - 4393, 4401 - 4404, 4430 - 4434, 4439 - 4858
4864 - 5615, 5629 - 5632, 5654 - 5863, 5868 - 6107
6023 - 6025, 6026 - 6145, 6149 - 6210, 6214 - 6215
6218 - 6711, 7300 - 7312, 7755 - 7812, 8770 - 8819
9770 - 9930
Now, I have my own curious question:
For exampole, Delta sells SEA-SFO on Feb 15, on non-stop AS flights under the DL code share flight numbers of DL 9148, 7517, 9096, 7610 & 9233, along with their regular 1-stop flights via SLC.
These are not eligible flight numbers per the above chart. Will I get AS credit for an AS flight flown under my AS MVPG number, but purchased, for whatever reason, as the DL code share ? And what about being upgraded ?
Other similar flights are SEA-LAX, MSP & ATL, among others.
Delta Air Lines Eligible Flight Numbers
0001 - 2399, 2400 - 2819, 2835 - 2849, 2850 - 3234
3274 - 4393, 4401 - 4404, 4430 - 4434, 4439 - 4858
4864 - 5615, 5629 - 5632, 5654 - 5863, 5868 - 6107
6023 - 6025, 6026 - 6145, 6149 - 6210, 6214 - 6215
6218 - 6711, 7300 - 7312, 7755 - 7812, 8770 - 8819
9770 - 9930
Now, I have my own curious question:
For exampole, Delta sells SEA-SFO on Feb 15, on non-stop AS flights under the DL code share flight numbers of DL 9148, 7517, 9096, 7610 & 9233, along with their regular 1-stop flights via SLC.
These are not eligible flight numbers per the above chart. Will I get AS credit for an AS flight flown under my AS MVPG number, but purchased, for whatever reason, as the DL code share ? And what about being upgraded ?
Other similar flights are SEA-LAX, MSP & ATL, among others.
Feb 11, 2013, 10:31 pm
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From the AS website, in table format:
Delta Air Lines Eligible Flight Numbers
0001 - 2399, 2400 - 2819, 2835 - 2849, 2850 - 3234
3274 - 4393, 4401 - 4404, 4430 - 4434, 4439 - 4858
4864 - 5615, 5629 - 5632, 5654 - 5863, 5868 - 6107
6023 - 6025, 6026 - 6145, 6149 - 6210, 6214 - 6215
6218 - 6711, 7300 - 7312, 7755 - 7812, 8770 - 8819
9770 - 9930
Now, I have my own curious question:
For exampole, Delta sells SEA-SFO on Feb 15, on non-stop AS flights under the DL code share flight numbers of DL 9148, 7517, 9096, 7610 & 9233, along with their regular 1-stop flights via SLC.
These are not eligible flight numbers per the above chart. Will I get AS credit for an AS flight flown under my AS MVPG number, but purchased, for whatever reason, as the DL code share ? And what about being upgraded ?
Other similar flights are SEA-LAX, MSP & ATL, among others.
Delta Air Lines Eligible Flight Numbers
0001 - 2399, 2400 - 2819, 2835 - 2849, 2850 - 3234
3274 - 4393, 4401 - 4404, 4430 - 4434, 4439 - 4858
4864 - 5615, 5629 - 5632, 5654 - 5863, 5868 - 6107
6023 - 6025, 6026 - 6145, 6149 - 6210, 6214 - 6215
6218 - 6711, 7300 - 7312, 7755 - 7812, 8770 - 8819
9770 - 9930
Now, I have my own curious question:
For exampole, Delta sells SEA-SFO on Feb 15, on non-stop AS flights under the DL code share flight numbers of DL 9148, 7517, 9096, 7610 & 9233, along with their regular 1-stop flights via SLC.
These are not eligible flight numbers per the above chart. Will I get AS credit for an AS flight flown under my AS MVPG number, but purchased, for whatever reason, as the DL code share ? And what about being upgraded ?
Other similar flights are SEA-LAX, MSP & ATL, among others.
Feb 12, 2013, 1:47 am
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From the AS website, in table format:
Delta Air Lines Eligible Flight Numbers
0001 - 2399, 2400 - 2819, 2835 - 2849, 2850 - 3234
3274 - 4393, 4401 - 4404, 4430 - 4434, 4439 - 4858
4864 - 5615, 5629 - 5632, 5654 - 5863, 5868 - 6107
6023 - 6025, 6026 - 6145, 6149 - 6210, 6214 - 6215
6218 - 6711, 7300 - 7312, 7755 - 7812, 8770 - 8819
9770 - 9930
Now, I have my own curious question:
For exampole, Delta sells SEA-SFO on Feb 15, on non-stop AS flights under the DL code share flight numbers of DL 9148, 7517, 9096, 7610 & 9233, along with their regular 1-stop flights via SLC.
These are not eligible flight numbers per the above chart. Will I get AS credit for an AS flight flown under my AS MVPG number, but purchased, for whatever reason, as the DL code share ? And what about being upgraded ?
Other similar flights are SEA-LAX, MSP & ATL, among others.
Delta Air Lines Eligible Flight Numbers
0001 - 2399, 2400 - 2819, 2835 - 2849, 2850 - 3234
3274 - 4393, 4401 - 4404, 4430 - 4434, 4439 - 4858
4864 - 5615, 5629 - 5632, 5654 - 5863, 5868 - 6107
6023 - 6025, 6026 - 6145, 6149 - 6210, 6214 - 6215
6218 - 6711, 7300 - 7312, 7755 - 7812, 8770 - 8819
9770 - 9930
Now, I have my own curious question:
For exampole, Delta sells SEA-SFO on Feb 15, on non-stop AS flights under the DL code share flight numbers of DL 9148, 7517, 9096, 7610 & 9233, along with their regular 1-stop flights via SLC.
These are not eligible flight numbers per the above chart. Will I get AS credit for an AS flight flown under my AS MVPG number, but purchased, for whatever reason, as the DL code share ? And what about being upgraded ?
Other similar flights are SEA-LAX, MSP & ATL, among others.
Feb 12, 2013, 3:21 pm
#9
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Thanks for the info. Twice I have flown from the Southeast to SEA, starting on Delta, but avoided the preferred flights thru MSP because they included the AS MSP-SEA flight as a DL code share. I need not have avoided it after all, but didn't have time to check then.
Feb 12, 2013, 5:00 pm
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Generally, AS credits codeshares based on the operating carrier - you should get miles based on the AS flight number. I don't remember the specifics about upgrades but I believe it's been discussed here at some length. (Would try to find you a link, but I'm on my phone)
Feb 12, 2013, 5:12 pm
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the only difference being that you usually have the baggage allowance of the marketing carrier, in this case DL or AA. If you are MVPG/75K, you don't get the AS change fee waiver on DL-marketed AS flights, but can check 2 70lb bags for free, 3 if flying in F. At least in SEA, the AS F/Elite check-in has some Sky Priority tags lying around to put on passengers' checked luggage.
I'd also be very surprised if Delta allowed Alaska agents to put Sky Priority stickers on bags.
Feb 12, 2013, 5:36 pm
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DL just redid the flight numbers to Pocatello, from 77XX to 74XX, rendering them ineligible for AS miles. What is the logic of AS excluding these flight numbers for credit? Since the SLC-PIH flight is a constant for me, this really hurts. Considering asking for a DL status match and ditching my (admittedly meager) AS status that I've kept for the past 7 years.
Feb 12, 2013, 9:50 pm
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Not everyone has the stickers- but KL can put SP on DL flights- I think if AS has them they can too.
Feb 12, 2013, 11:56 pm
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Baggage policies almost universally follow the policy of the first operating carrier, regardless of who issued the ticket. Alaska's policies allow certain exceptions for connecting to/from international destinations, is that what you're thinking of?
I think it is more a case of an AS agent walking over to the DL counter and asking for a stack of Sky Priority tags. This is probably more likely in outstations where DL agents are working AS flights using a shared ticketing counter.