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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 1:32 pm
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Flight Reductions at OAK

Is Alaska withdrawing from Oakland, or just making the flights more expensive and infrequent so that we are forced to move to SFO?

I live in SEA and fly to work in Oakland several times per month. The flights I take appear to be full of business travelers given the length of the upgrade list. The schedule shows only two flights per day in March, down from three or four. The choice from SEA to OAK is an 8:00 a.m flight which eats up a 1/2 day of work or a 9:30 p.m. flight which lands near midnight.

On specific Wednesdays in March the only two flights from OAK to SEA leave at 6:43 a.m. and 9:23 a.m. Nothing at all in the afternoon or evening which means a trek to SFO or stay another day.

I can write into Alaska but don't think my lone voice will do any good. Anyone else feeling the pain?
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 1:47 pm
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OAK has been hemorrhaging money for AS for years. They really only kept it beefed up a little for Hawaii flights so that their bay area mileage plan members had plentiful options. Now there are a ton of options and it's not as useful to AS.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 3:20 pm
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Not just OAK, AS seems to be slowly decreasing a lot of SFO routes and frequency as well.


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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 4:30 pm
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OAK feels a lot like DAL. Slowly cut service before they just kill it entirely.

At first it felt like a viable alternative to SFO if weather got really bad for flow control, but when you have an operation at SJC as well, might as well only keep two, and OAK aint it.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 4:43 pm
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A lot of this is just due to seasonal variations. Route goes back to 4x daily in late April and then 5x daily for summer starting May 15th.

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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper
A lot of this is just due to seasonal variations. Route goes back to 4x daily in late April and then 5x daily for summer starting May 15th.

Until it doesn't. Don't want to be a party pooper, just realistic, as we've been at 4x/day SEA on and off for some time.
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First southbound flight of the day at 10am is rough for business travel.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by sjbsf
which means a trek to SFO or stay another day.
Id much rather prefer a trek to SJC, flight schedule permitting. Otherwise, you might have to be half and half WN/AS
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 11:33 pm
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Originally Posted by StevenSeagalFan
They really only kept it beefed up a little for Hawaii flights so that their bay area mileage plan members had plentiful options. Now there are a ton of options and it's not as useful to AS.
It's funny - Flying PDX > OGG once a month or so I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a connection through OAK pop up when booking. If dollars are any indication AS seems to want me to go through SJC or SAN as those are usually both pretty cheap.... followed by LAX and SFO. Of course, the whole switch to HA metal is changing things daily so we'll have to wait and see. IIRC, WN has a pretty strong presence in OAK?
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Originally Posted by mtofell
It's funny - Flying PDX > OGG once a month or so I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a connection through OAK pop up when booking. If dollars are any indication AS seems to want me to go through SJC or SAN as those are usually both pretty cheap.... followed by LAX and SFO. Of course, the whole switch to HA metal is changing things daily so we'll have to wait and see. IIRC, WN has a pretty strong presence in OAK?
80% percent for WN these days. And fares on the shorter hops have gotten stooopid. And SJC is a no-go for many of us. My last used companion fares (one on AS, one on DL) were for SFO to/from So Cal from SFO even though I'd have happily flown WN from OAK if it weren't going to be $600+ for 2.
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by StevenSeagalFan
OAK has been hemorrhaging money for AS for years. They really only kept it beefed up a little for Hawaii flights so that their bay area mileage plan members had plentiful options. Now there are a ton of options and it's not as useful to AS.
AS axed Hawaii in 2021. Why stick around for so long on the minimal SEA/PDX flights if they are "hemorrhaging money"?
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by ucdtim17
AS axed Hawaii in 2021. Why stick around for so long on the minimal SEA/PDX flights if they are "hemorrhaging money"?
Bay area companies with AS contracts making noises, maybe (OAK is a reasonable alternative for downtown SF)?
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by olouie
Not just OAK, AS seems to be slowly decreasing a lot of SFO routes and frequency as well.

would be worthwhile to show the comparison to other carriers. Most airlines have reduced flying from Bay Area airports in recent years as a result of tech industry cutbacks.
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by ucdtim17
AS axed Hawaii in 2021. Why stick around for so long on the minimal SEA/PDX flights if they are "hemorrhaging money"?
They still have a maintenance base there so routing planes in and out any way. The PDX and SEA hub flights are nominal money losers. They stopped HI because they were hemorrhaging money, is it really that difficult to comprehend? I have direct knowledge of these things.

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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 11:02 pm
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
Bay area companies with AS contracts making noises, maybe (OAK is a reasonable alternative for downtown SF)?
For some yes, but not everyone.
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