A320's on NZ Domestic?
May 22, 2009, 9:03 pm
#3
Moderator, Hilton Honors
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: on a short leash
Programs: some
Posts: 71,422
Welcome to Flyer Talk GO_CAT 
NZ used to have some A320 scheduled flights between AKL, WLG & CHC for repositioning or utilising spare a/c but haven't for a while. With trans-tasman schedule reductions repositioning needs are much less. That said in irrops they may be swapped in on domestic.
NZ used to have some A320 scheduled flights between AKL, WLG & CHC for repositioning or utilising spare a/c but haven't for a while. With trans-tasman schedule reductions repositioning needs are much less. That said in irrops they may be swapped in on domestic.
May 23, 2009, 8:12 pm
#6
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 230
I will give JQ NZ a shot or two, but as an A320 F/O, I am in no way impressed by their standards in terms of Pilot Conditions and possible safety issues that will resort from this... I have heard many stories about the guys that they are about to sign on over there, nearly all fresh of sim, not thats a problem, but with inexperience most certainly comes accidents, even more so with a country of NZ which does have severe weather at times and for a new airline startup that could be majority flown by newbies who are new to the A320. Just look at the Q400 accident recently in the states..
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
May 23, 2009, 10:16 pm
#8
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wellington
Programs: QFWP (LTSG), NZ (Jade), TG ROP (Forgotten), OZ (Silver), AA (Cardboard), EK (Lowest of the Low)
Posts: 4,669
After the tragic loss earlier this year NZ has been short of an A320. Although some flights have been cut, I thought the freed up A320 was then put on TT flights to reduce the capacity to match demand.
May 24, 2009, 1:27 am
#9
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 96
"...but with inexperience most certainly comes accidents..."
There's a generally accepted consensus that airlines avoid competing with each other on a safety basis - that's why there are no TV commercials saying "We're more likely to get you there alive than XXX..." and so on. This policy is a consensus because this kind of advertising is a double-edged sword: In the end, everybody gets cut and hurt.
Inexperience, in itself, does not "cause accidents" - all pilots are inexperienced when they start flying. A sound training program, solid SOP's and excellent training pilots ensure a safe transition to their becoming experienced pilots.
GO_CAT's post is disingenuous. It is attempting to use an ongoing IR disagreement within the global Pilot community to shade the name of an airline. The Q400 accident mentioned may have experience levels as a contributory factor (the report is not yet published) but there are many other significant contributory factors as well, not least, fatigue, training and type specific issues.
As an Air NZ employee, sure, I'd like to "beat" JQ commercially, but I'd prefer to do it in a fair fight in a defined arena rather than by using slur and innuendo.
Inexperience, in itself, does not "cause accidents" - all pilots are inexperienced when they start flying. A sound training program, solid SOP's and excellent training pilots ensure a safe transition to their becoming experienced pilots.
GO_CAT's post is disingenuous. It is attempting to use an ongoing IR disagreement within the global Pilot community to shade the name of an airline. The Q400 accident mentioned may have experience levels as a contributory factor (the report is not yet published) but there are many other significant contributory factors as well, not least, fatigue, training and type specific issues.
As an Air NZ employee, sure, I'd like to "beat" JQ commercially, but I'd prefer to do it in a fair fight in a defined arena rather than by using slur and innuendo.
May 24, 2009, 4:04 pm
#10
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: LCY
Posts: 1,222
There is still the odd A320 flight on the domestic: though a lot more rare than in the recent past. Look out for a four digit flight number beginning '1' -- NZ1XXX numbers rather than the usual NZXXX domestic -- and remember that the aircraft type can change if you're booking a way out. I've only seen the 320 on domestic flights to Queenstown in the past few weeks, but can't for the life of me remember whether it was from AKL or WLG.
May 24, 2009, 10:13 pm
#11
Join Date: May 2008
Location: MSP
Programs: DL Plat, NZ Elite, QF Plat
Posts: 1,776
There is still the odd A320 flight on the domestic: though a lot more rare than in the recent past. Look out for a four digit flight number beginning '1' -- NZ1XXX numbers rather than the usual NZXXX domestic -- and remember that the aircraft type can change if you're booking a way out. I've only seen the 320 on domestic flights to Queenstown in the past few weeks, but can't for the life of me remember whether it was from AKL or WLG.