777 AKl to PER
Sep 17, 2007, 1:30 am
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777 AKl to PER
Hi all
I picked up some family at Perth airport who had traveled from Auckland on Saturday and noticed that the plane was a 777 instead of the usual 767.
Is it common for this to occur. I am flying business to Auckland in Nov and would love to get the 777 seats.
Cheers
I picked up some family at Perth airport who had traveled from Auckland on Saturday and noticed that the plane was a 777 instead of the usual 767.
Is it common for this to occur. I am flying business to Auckland in Nov and would love to get the 777 seats.
Cheers
Sep 17, 2007, 2:15 am
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It must have been an operational replacement.
I have looked at AKL - PER flights for the rest of the year.
The daily NZ175 flight is operated by a 763 aircraft.
I have looked at AKL - PER flights for the rest of the year.
The daily NZ175 flight is operated by a 763 aircraft.
Sep 17, 2007, 3:32 am
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I think WLG Base is correct - I was at AKL on Sunday and noticed that the arrival of the PER-AKL sector was almost 6pm, instead of the 7am (or whatever it normally is) arrival... leading me to think there must've been an a/c sub which lead to the delay, or was the resolution to the delay..
Sep 18, 2007, 12:40 pm
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I'm sure it wasn't related to loads. Just one of those things that happens and can't plan for (a bit like getting a QF 734 on domestic NZ flights 
). I think you'll need to wait a few more years before the 763 is phased out.
). I think you'll need to wait a few more years before the 763 is phased out.
Sep 20, 2007, 4:18 am
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I can confirm NZ 772ER ZK-OKF operated AKL-PER-AKL flights on SAT/SUN 15/16 SEP 2007.
As you can see it also remained at PER o/night:
It's my understanding the 767 that was scheduled to operate AKL-PER-AKL was stuck in Apia for reasons unknown and was obviously unable to operate the AKL-PER-AKL service.
So as you can see the switch from 763 to 772 equipment was due to operational reasons.
Hope that clears things up
Regards
Code:
ZK-OKF B777-219 (ER) ANZ NZ0175 17:39 Auckland - Perth 15SEP ZK-OKF B777-219 (ER) ANZ NZ0176 07:06 Perth - Auckland 16SEP
GATE 3
BAY 53
A-C OPS 176 AKL 0735
A C TO BE TOWED TO 56 O/N
[*Name Removed*], QANTAS PERTH
BAY 53
A-C OPS 176 AKL 0735
A C TO BE TOWED TO 56 O/N
[*Name Removed*], QANTAS PERTH
So as you can see the switch from 763 to 772 equipment was due to operational reasons.
Hope that clears things up
Regards
Sep 22, 2007, 11:25 pm
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Would have been a much much better product and to the J passengers and premium FF's they would have been very very happy people.
If NZ advertised the flight in WA they would do much better on the flight and could fill a 777 a few times a week and have a 767 the other days. 10% of WA's population are Kiwis, and it really annoys me that NZ dont advertise the fact that they have a direct flight to New Zealand.
If NZ advertised the flight in WA they would do much better on the flight and could fill a 777 a few times a week and have a 767 the other days. 10% of WA's population are Kiwis, and it really annoys me that NZ dont advertise the fact that they have a direct flight to New Zealand.
Sep 22, 2007, 11:33 pm
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I'm struggling to grasp why you could possibly think a 777 on a route that is..
a) a monopoly
b) high proportion of low yielding traffic
c) long enough to require an aircraft dedicated it
could possibly make sense.
The route already does very well and doesn't really need advertising. You're always going to get the passengers who go on QF via Melbourne to save twenty bucks, and enough Kiwis are aware of the flight to give it very respectable load factors year round.
a) a monopoly
b) high proportion of low yielding traffic
c) long enough to require an aircraft dedicated it
could possibly make sense.
The route already does very well and doesn't really need advertising. You're always going to get the passengers who go on QF via Melbourne to save twenty bucks, and enough Kiwis are aware of the flight to give it very respectable load factors year round.
Sep 23, 2007, 12:42 am
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Perth's a boom town and NZ could do a lot better here, both by promoting the direct flight and also by catering for the poorly-served Perth-USA market in at least one direction for the summer schedule...
... with a new timetable eg
PER 11.00 AKL 21.20 connecting to NZ2 to LAX at 23.00
[and AKL 06.00 PER 09.45 just misconnecting from NZ1 which arrives at 05.45]
... thus appealing to the oil-industry PER-IAH commuters who could leave PER at 11am and arrive in IAH the same evening.
Edit: Or go the whole hog PER-LAX-PER via AKL:
PER 12.00 to AKL arr 22.20 dep 23.55 to LAX arr 14.40 dep 18.00 to AKL arr 04.30 dep 06.45 to PER arr 10.30
... with a new timetable eg
PER 11.00 AKL 21.20 connecting to NZ2 to LAX at 23.00
[and AKL 06.00 PER 09.45 just misconnecting from NZ1 which arrives at 05.45]
... thus appealing to the oil-industry PER-IAH commuters who could leave PER at 11am and arrive in IAH the same evening.
Edit: Or go the whole hog PER-LAX-PER via AKL:
PER 12.00 to AKL arr 22.20 dep 23.55 to LAX arr 14.40 dep 18.00 to AKL arr 04.30 dep 06.45 to PER arr 10.30
Last edited by harryhv; Sep 23, 2007 at 12:53 am