Crewing question
Jan 8, 2026 | 5:02 am
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Crewing question
I occasionally fly AKL/PER. Its been a daily service for some years and from what I understand the operating crew stay overnight in PER before operating back to AKL the following evening. Its currently operated by B777. There is now an additional 2 x weekly B787 flights. With a schedule like that, would the 787 crew operating AKL/PER then deadhead back to AKL on the same aircraft or would they stay overnight and deadhead back to AKL on the following nights B777 flight? Just wondering what the award would allow versus keeping hotel stays to a minimum. I'm sure the days of multi day hotel stays are long gone if they can be avoided.
Jan 8, 2026 | 5:28 am
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I occasionally fly AKL/PER. Its been a daily service for some years and from what I understand the operating crew stay overnight in PER before operating back to AKL the following evening. Its currently operated by B777. There is now an additional 2 x weekly B787 flights. With a schedule like that, would the 787 crew operating AKL/PER then deadhead back to AKL on the same aircraft or would they stay overnight and deadhead back to AKL on the following nights B777 flight? Just wondering what the award would allow versus keeping hotel stays to a minimum. I'm sure the days of multi day hotel stays are long gone if they can be avoided.
All time spent in deadhead transportation is duty and is not rest (there's a quick reference for this, the phrase is stuck in my head word for word now
) That would make like a 16-17 hour duty if crew deadheaded straight back.Another similar example is those one off LA 78 flights. Crew operate over, pax back a night or two later.
Last edited by ZKNHB; Jan 8, 2026 at 5:34 am
Jan 8, 2026 | 11:16 pm
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Tech or cabin crew? Cabin crew fly both the 77 and the 78 so this is no problem for them.
All time spent in deadhead transportation is duty and is not rest (there's a quick reference for this, the phrase is stuck in my head word for word now) That would make like a 16-17 hour duty if crew deadheaded straight back.
Another similar example is those one off LA 78 flights. Crew operate over, pax back a night or two later.
All time spent in deadhead transportation is duty and is not rest (there's a quick reference for this, the phrase is stuck in my head word for word now
) That would make like a 16-17 hour duty if crew deadheaded straight back.Another similar example is those one off LA 78 flights. Crew operate over, pax back a night or two later.
Jan 8, 2026 | 11:26 pm
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Thanks ZKNHB.
Maybe I should have used the term positioning rather than deadheading.
Assuming the 787 cabin crew stay overnight they would then return to AKL together with the 777 crew who operated AKLPER the night before on the usual 777 flight. So both crew would be heading back to AKL on the one 777 flight.
Otherwise the 787 cabin crew would be in PER for the next 787 flight 3 or 4 days later. Just curious how this works!
Maybe I should have used the term positioning rather than deadheading.
Assuming the 787 cabin crew stay overnight they would then return to AKL together with the 777 crew who operated AKLPER the night before on the usual 777 flight. So both crew would be heading back to AKL on the one 777 flight.
Otherwise the 787 cabin crew would be in PER for the next 787 flight 3 or 4 days later. Just curious how this works!