Wet Leases summer 22/23
Oct 14, 22, 4:13 pm
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Wet Leases summer 22/23
Looks like AirNZ is toying with domestic wet leases to help them with summer 22/23 demand and heading into a another COVID wave with I guess increased staff sickness.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/300713123/air-nz-may-bring-in-aircraft-and-crew-from-overseas-amid-surge-of-summer-bookings
https://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/300713123/air-nz-may-bring-in-aircraft-and-crew-from-overseas-amid-surge-of-summer-bookings
Oct 14, 22, 4:22 pm
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Air New Zealand CEO Greg Foran says the airline is looking at leasing aircraft and crew from overseas to get it through the summer period off the back of heavy domestic bookings.
Qantas have NZ Jetconect(QF NZ) crew on some QF international routes
Oct 14, 22, 6:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Rebound
We have seen hifly operate previously covering some Trans-Tasman and Islands routes, but interesting how the manage this on a domestic level and with who.
Hi fly does have an a couple of a321s. So might be a contender.
Oct 14, 22, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by samjnz
Likely easier to substitute on domestic routes though since avoids complexity with the different cabin types/seats on long haul (eg. Having to credit all the Skycouch bookings etc)
Or any narrow body routes?
Oct 14, 22, 8:17 pm
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Well looks like VH-SYO turned up in AKL today (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-syo) its a BAE 146-200 from Pionair, anyone know what its doing in AKL?
Could it be here to visit NZ, Pionair has a coupe of passenger BAE146s and with Australian crew it would be a rather simple to get them operating domestically.
Another option for wet-leases for Domestic, could be Alliance Airlines from Aussie?
Could it be here to visit NZ, Pionair has a coupe of passenger BAE146s and with Australian crew it would be a rather simple to get them operating domestically.
Another option for wet-leases for Domestic, could be Alliance Airlines from Aussie?
Oct 14, 22, 8:34 pm
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Originally Posted by cavemanzk
Well looks like VH-SYO turned up in AKL today (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-syo) its a BAE 146-200 from Pionair, anyone know what its doing in AKL?
Could it be here to visit NZ, Pionair has a coupe of passenger BAE146s and with Australian crew it would be a rather simple to get them operating domestically.
Another option for wet-leases for Domestic, could be Alliance Airlines from Aussie?
Could it be here to visit NZ, Pionair has a coupe of passenger BAE146s and with Australian crew it would be a rather simple to get them operating domestically.
Another option for wet-leases for Domestic, could be Alliance Airlines from Aussie?
Also VH-SYO looks like it is heading back to Aussie now (flying a non etdo route).
With the Aussie summer will Aussie airlines have an excess of planes? They were just scraping through the winter school holidays.
Oct 15, 22, 12:50 am
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Originally Posted by sbiddle
There is no shortage of planes for domestic or short-haul routes... First domestic 321N is here soon as well.
Oct 15, 22, 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by cavemanzk
Could be more “crewing shortages”, with more long haul capacity ramping back up. Wet leasing in some domestic capacity, would allow them to place some a320 crews on secomment to the 777/787 fleets over summer.
Oct 15, 22, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by Thai-Kiwi
The overhead needed to train and qualify 320 crew onto 789/77W makes this idea a challenge.
Oct 15, 22, 2:25 am
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Originally Posted by cavemanzk
Could be more “crewing shortages”, with more long haul capacity ramping back up. Wet leasing in some domestic capacity, would allow them to place some a320 crews on secomment to the 777/787 fleets over summer.
Oct 16, 22, 4:23 am
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Wet lease domestic ain't happening in less than 6 months for one simple reason: work visas for the crews. Ain't no way in hell they could be processed in less than six-to-nine months. There's a reason wet leases tend to be on international routes.
