Originally Posted by Eltham
(Post 31300920)
The similarity is that a lot of so-called “experts” are making bucketloads of money out of it and are completely unaccountable. None of us will be around to know. |
Originally Posted by kiwifrequentflyer
(Post 31301241)
Huh, speak for yourself? My generation is the one that is going to be dealing full force with this.
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Originally Posted by kiwifrequentflyer
(Post 31301241)
Huh, speak for yourself? My generation is the one that is going to be dealing full force with this.
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Originally Posted by Eltham
(Post 31301360)
i don’t know what your generation is but I can assure you that you won’t be around to see any conclusive evidence either way (and there certainly is none yet, despite what the “experts” say). |
Major loss of Arctic and Antarctic Ice? Not according to many authorities.... It makes my head spin - all the claims and counter claims...
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Well that escalated quickly.
Going back to the OP, I wonder how many pax actually need a water bottle? Would a solution be to have them available on demand/at the back of cabin? |
Water bottles
Does the koru lounge have canned water (still or soda) or plastic water bottles ?
(with Auckland include the strata lounge as that is also used by Airnz) |
Originally Posted by Chessboxin
(Post 31303812)
Well that escalated quickly.
The bottom line: Any attempt to portray this as anything but cost-cutting 'sustainability theatre' is disingenuous to the real issues of sustainability and climate change. If Air NZ were ultra-concerned about the plastic, the bottles would be replaced with an alternative, and one that may actually cost more to implement, e.g. fully degradable bottles etc. But I think we all know that there is no way that is going to happen. At the same time, it is a business that is trying to stay profitable in a tricky environment (no pun), so two sides to everything. All said and done, water is a basic need, and if I struggle in the future to have easy (instant) access to hydration when flying, due to some bizarrro attempt to cost save, that is a bad look for an airline whose premium cabins are not cheap to fly in. However you slice it, taking in-seat water sources away will blatantly deliver you less hydrated passengers on average. |
Originally Posted by zoovet
(Post 31303319)
So you're not convinced by a heated atmosphere, disappearing glaciers, major loss of arctic and antarctic ice, increased and worsening cyclonic activity and sea level rise?? I wish I could walk around with my eyes closed, but perhaps I am as this is seriously off-topic!
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Originally Posted by JayKiwi
(Post 31303878)
It sure did.
The bottom line: Any attempt to portray this as anything but cost-cutting 'sustainability theatre' is disingenuous to the real issues of sustainability and climate change. If Air NZ were ultra-concerned about the plastic, the bottles would be replaced with an alternative, and one that may actually cost more to implement, e.g. fully degradable bottles etc. But I think we all know that there is no way that is going to happen. At the same time, it is a business that is trying to stay profitable in a tricky environment (no pun), so two sides to everything. All said and done, water is a basic need, and if I struggle in the future to have easy (instant) access to hydration when flying, due to some bizarrro attempt to cost save, that is a bad look for an airline whose premium cabins are not cheap to fly in. However you slice it, taking in-seat water sources away will blatantly deliver you less hydrated passengers on average. Taking your own water bottle is a viable solution. You can use it in cars, at work, the gym etc Why do I get the feeling the small effort is beyond some people? |
Originally Posted by Beano
(Post 31303858)
Does the koru lounge have canned water (still or soda) or plastic water bottles ?
(with Auckland include the strata lounge as that is also used by Airnz) |
Originally Posted by JayKiwi
(Post 31303878)
It sure did.
The bottom line: Any attempt to portray this as anything but cost-cutting 'sustainability theatre' is disingenuous to the real issues of sustainability and climate change. If Air NZ were ultra-concerned about the plastic, the bottles would be replaced with an alternative, and one that may actually cost more to implement, e.g. fully degradable bottles etc. But I think we all know that there is no way that is going to happen. At the same time, it is a business that is trying to stay profitable in a tricky environment (no pun), so two sides to everything. All said and done, water is a basic need, and if I struggle in the future to have easy (instant) access to hydration when flying, due to some bizarrro attempt to cost save, that is a bad look for an airline whose premium cabins are not cheap to fly in. However you slice it, taking in-seat water sources away will blatantly deliver you less hydrated passengers on average. I often drink 2-3 bottles at least on overnight on long haul flights so if they got rid of those and I had to get up or call a crew member to come and fill a bottle it would be a real pain. |
I wouldn't be too surprised to see people drinking less of the water and instead drinking more beer and / or wine. This could easily offset the cost savings.
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Originally Posted by Trumpkin
(Post 31312248)
I wouldn't be too surprised to see people drinking less of the water and instead drinking more beer and / or wine. This could easily offset the cost savings.
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Originally Posted by drajknox
(Post 31312841)
And champagne/wine bottles are heavier so more weight that has to be carried. Would be embarrassing for them to have to announce they had run out. |
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