Seeking advice for a NZ itinerary combining separate PNRs
#1
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Seeking advice for a NZ itinerary combining separate PNRs
As a complete newbie to NZ (and to New Zealand), I have a couple of simple questions about an upcoming flight. In late February, my wife and I are flying AKL-SFO in J, on NZ8. Our tickets are open-jaw returns to the US, on a UA codeshare. It now transpires that we will be leaving from Wellington, and I've booked additional one-way "seat plus bag" tickets to connect at AKL, with what should be a generous allowance for connecting time. Because the NZ website reservations system apparently only allows passengers on a single PNR to choose adjacent seats, I needed to get separate PNRs for the two of us on the WLG-AKL flight to permit booking window and aisle seats in the same row.
Here are my questions:
1) Am I correct to assume that we will be able to surrender our bags at WLG for our full TPAC itinerary (even though we have three PNRs)? Or will we be required to retrieve them at AKL, and possibly have to schlep them landside between terminals? Do NZ FTs have any particular advice in this situation, or is it all very straightforward?
2) I don't expect any lounge access at the WLG domestic terminal by virtue of our J tickets ex AKL, but do we qualify for a NZ lounge as I am a paid United Club member (under the *A "paid membership" policy)? If so, which lounge? (Since my retirement, I no longer have any *A status.)
Here are my questions:
1) Am I correct to assume that we will be able to surrender our bags at WLG for our full TPAC itinerary (even though we have three PNRs)? Or will we be required to retrieve them at AKL, and possibly have to schlep them landside between terminals? Do NZ FTs have any particular advice in this situation, or is it all very straightforward?
2) I don't expect any lounge access at the WLG domestic terminal by virtue of our J tickets ex AKL, but do we qualify for a NZ lounge as I am a paid United Club member (under the *A "paid membership" policy)? If so, which lounge? (Since my retirement, I no longer have any *A status.)
#2
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,645
As a complete newbie to NZ (and to New Zealand), I have a couple of simple questions about an upcoming flight. In late February, my wife and I are flying AKL-SFO in J, on NZ8. Our tickets are open-jaw returns to the US, on a UA codeshare. It now transpires that we will be leaving from Wellington, and I've booked additional one-way "seat plus bag" tickets to connect at AKL, with what should be a generous allowance for connecting time. Because the NZ website reservations system apparently only allows passengers on a single PNR to choose adjacent seats, I needed to get separate PNRs for the two of us on the WLG-AKL flight to permit booking window and aisle seats in the same row.
Here are my questions:
1) Am I correct to assume that we will be able to surrender our bags at WLG for our full TPAC itinerary (even though we have three PNRs)? Or will we be required to retrieve them at AKL, and possibly have to schlep them landside between terminals? Do NZ FTs have any particular advice in this situation, or is it all very straightforward?
2) I don't expect any lounge access at the WLG domestic terminal by virtue of our J tickets ex AKL, but do we qualify for a NZ lounge as I am a paid United Club member (under the *A "paid membership" policy)? If so, which lounge? (Since my retirement, I no longer have any *A status.)
Here are my questions:
1) Am I correct to assume that we will be able to surrender our bags at WLG for our full TPAC itinerary (even though we have three PNRs)? Or will we be required to retrieve them at AKL, and possibly have to schlep them landside between terminals? Do NZ FTs have any particular advice in this situation, or is it all very straightforward?
2) I don't expect any lounge access at the WLG domestic terminal by virtue of our J tickets ex AKL, but do we qualify for a NZ lounge as I am a paid United Club member (under the *A "paid membership" policy)? If so, which lounge? (Since my retirement, I no longer have any *A status.)
1. No if not on a single PNR, you will need to collect your bags at AKL domestic and carry them over to AKL international. Its less than a 10min walk and generally faster to walk than get the bus.
#3
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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1. Air NZ usually won’t check your bags all the way ex WGN, but it can’t hurt to ask nicely at check in - I suggest you try the premium desk rather than just the floating helpers monitoring the self check in kiosks.
2. I don’t think a paid UA membership will give you access to the Koru lounge (the name for the domestic lounge) in WGN. It is a *A Gold benefit. You will get access to the lounge in AKL as you have J class tickets ex AKL.
Enjoy your visit 😀
2. I don’t think a paid UA membership will give you access to the Koru lounge (the name for the domestic lounge) in WGN. It is a *A Gold benefit. You will get access to the lounge in AKL as you have J class tickets ex AKL.
Enjoy your visit 😀
#4
Join Date: Feb 2007
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NZ is pretty smart with these things, and often will have load factors in the high 90% on primary short-haul routes.
#5
Join Date: Nov 2006
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2) I don't expect any lounge access at the WLG domestic terminal by virtue of our J tickets ex AKL, but do we qualify for a NZ lounge as I am a paid United Club member (under the *A "paid membership" policy)? If so, which lounge? (Since my retirement, I no longer have any *A status.)
#6
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Yes you will have access to the WLG lounge by virtue of being a United Club member https://www.staralliance.com/lounge-...&filter=expand .
#7
Join Date: Dec 2014
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1. Officially the answer is no - they won't check your bags from Wellington to Auckland to SFO. Unofficially? Definitely worth trying. A few people have been successful but it's not the norm. I'd pull out your business class ticket and ask if they might be able to tag your bags right through. Also, it is possible to split your seating on the same PNR by calling Air NZ if one likes the aisle and the other the window. We don't mind if the middle seat is taken. I've also made seating changes via social media (saves being on hold etc)
2. United club and I think Air Canada is the other paid membership that have access to Air NZ lounges. There is a regional and a main lounge in Wellington. I'd go to the main lounge (never been to the regional one).
2. United club and I think Air Canada is the other paid membership that have access to Air NZ lounges. There is a regional and a main lounge in Wellington. I'd go to the main lounge (never been to the regional one).
#8
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 182
Thanks for all your advice.
It's good to learn that the domestic terminal does have "premium desks." With just one class of domestic service, I wasn't sure that we would find one.
If I call in a few days before travel, is there anything that the telephone agent can or will do to facilitate our being able to check the bags through to our final destination? As to seat splitting, we've already got the two domestic PNRs in this case, but that capability might be good to know about for any future similar situations.
This suggests that (as with AF at CDG) there's no NZ check-in desk for international bags in the domestic terminal baggage claims area. Is that correct? If so, are there luggage trolleys that one can take if walking between the two terminals?
Like NZButterfly, we don't much care if the middle seat is taken. My wife likes only aisle seats and I like only window seats, and if we are booking early enough to have those options, that's how we always book. I don't want to sound obsessive for just a one-hour flight for which anything is tolerable, but I would be pretty angry if I experienced an airline routinely doing what cavemanzk describes. "Pretty smart" isn't the phrase I would use; "arrogant" or "completely customer-insensitive" would be much more apt. If that sort of behaviour is indeed common on NZ domestic flights, presumably it might be safer for us to select seats in different rows? I have to assume that there's some sort of inter-seat distance limit that cools NZ's interest in reseating people with the same surname in adjacent seats without passenger consent?
#9
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Correct. Many trolleys, and the 10 mins walk is clearly marked on the pavement between the terminals.
#10
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It's hardly a big deal to walk your bags to the international terminal the 8 min walk is shorter than you'd walk just to get between gates at some other airports!
#11
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Remember seat selection is a suggestion & they can be rearranged for operational reasons as much as they like. And if a human has done the moves opposed to an algorithm, doubt you would ever been able to find someone who could tell you why seats were rearranged.