Dunedin Koru Lounge
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Auckland NZ
Programs: NZ Gold
Posts: 21
Dunedin Koru Lounge
Heading out from DUD on Sunday mid morning, celebrating our anniversary and was wondering if the bar would be open for a glass of bubbly at that time. I heard it was a temporary lounge and given it is regional not sure what time the bar opened!
#3
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Air NZ Koru, Air NZ ELT *G, IHG Spire Ambassador, Emirates, Flying Blue, QANTAS Club
Posts: 424
Just be careful if you are traveling with a guest . . . they have been turning away guests due to the maximum occupancy of 50 pax in the temporary lounge for fire egress reasons. They are reserving spaces for all current members / qualified booked on flights (whether you are using the lounge or not).
#4
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 778
Just be careful if you are traveling with a guest . . . they have been turning away guests due to the maximum occupancy of 50 pax in the temporary lounge for fire egress reasons. They are reserving spaces for all current members / qualified booked on flights (whether you are using the lounge or not).
#5
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: New Zealand
Programs: NZ Elite, QF Platinum (LTS), VA Platinum
Posts: 1,672
I don't expect much from any temporary lounge so I'm never disappointed😀. But I know they're always building something better so I'm always hopeful! I'll put up with the downgrade in order to build something better for the future.
#6
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Air NZ Koru, Air NZ ELT *G, IHG Spire Ambassador, Emirates, Flying Blue, QANTAS Club
Posts: 424
Turning away paid Koru members yesterday. Not even a guest. One of my staff traveling with me was denied entry due to only keeping space for Gold and Gold Elite. I am totally OK with the no guest situation but when I pay for a membership and he does not get to use it that is a bit on the nose.
#7
Join Date: Feb 2007
Programs: NZ Koru
Posts: 6,415
Turning away paid Koru members yesterday. Not even a guest. One of my staff traveling with me was denied entry due to only keeping space for Gold and Gold Elite. I am totally OK with the no guest situation but when I pay for a membership and he does not get to use it that is a bit on the nose.
#9
Ambassador: Air New Zealand
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Wellington NZ
Programs: NZ Elite, EK Gold, Qatar Gold, Amex Plat, Accor Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,426
#10
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: WLG/BKK
Programs: TG*G, NZ*GE, QF G, Accor Gold
Posts: 10,207
The 'cost' of gaining *G status is not 'free', but thousands of dollars of travel within the alliance.
#11
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: AKL
Programs: NZ Silver
Posts: 1,817
Turning away paid Koru members yesterday. Not even a guest. One of my staff traveling with me was denied entry due to only keeping space for Gold and Gold Elite. I am totally OK with the no guest situation but when I pay for a membership and he does not get to use it that is a bit on the nose.
#12
Join Date: Feb 2007
Programs: NZ Koru
Posts: 6,415
For example the Koru Member has entered into an Contract with NZ when purchasing/renewing there membership to have Lounge Access. A Gold member has not entered into an contract as they have been gifted access.
NZ's T/C's don't seem to cover this case very well, and legally if you we're to take it up don't think NZ would win.
https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/koru-terms-conditions
#13
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Air NZ Koru, Air NZ ELT *G, IHG Spire Ambassador, Emirates, Flying Blue, QANTAS Club
Posts: 424
#14
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: WLG/BKK
Programs: TG*G, NZ*GE, QF G, Accor Gold
Posts: 10,207
But NZ's isn't selling Gold as an product, yet there selling Lounge Access via Koru. Which in DUD they are currently rejecting Koru Members from the Lounge.
For example the Koru Member has entered into an Contract with NZ when purchasing/renewing there membership to have Lounge Access. A Gold member has not entered into an contract as they have been gifted access.
NZ's T/C's don't seem to cover this case very well, and legally if you we're to take it up don't think NZ would win.
https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/koru-terms-conditions
For example the Koru Member has entered into an Contract with NZ when purchasing/renewing there membership to have Lounge Access. A Gold member has not entered into an contract as they have been gifted access.
NZ's T/C's don't seem to cover this case very well, and legally if you we're to take it up don't think NZ would win.
https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/koru-terms-conditions
In general terms, IMHO (NZ/*)Gold members rank above Koru members as far as NZ is concerned, which is consistent with the greater loyalty benefits Gold members enjoy over Koru.
If NZ has capacity limitations at a lounge, the T&C allow NZ to deny access to manage numbers. It follows that Koru members (low value customers - relative to G/GE) would be excluded first, before Gold and Gold Elite members (high value customers).
Should a Koru member feel unfairly treated, they have recourse to a number channels of complaint - but clause 17.1 appears to limit liability:
17.1 To the fullest extent permitted by law, Air New Zealand shall not be liable (in negligence, tort, breach of contract or otherwise) for any direct or indirect loss, or special or consequential loss, arising out of or in connection with:
Our variation of Koru Benefits from time to time;
Our variation to these Terms and Conditions from time to time;
The suspension to or termination of a Koru Member’s Koru Membership;
A Koru Member’s use of or ability (or inability) to access any Koru benefits;
Koru Member and Guest access to (or inability to access) and use any Air New Zealand Lounges or partner lounge
Our variation of Koru Benefits from time to time;
Our variation to these Terms and Conditions from time to time;
The suspension to or termination of a Koru Member’s Koru Membership;
A Koru Member’s use of or ability (or inability) to access any Koru benefits;
Koru Member and Guest access to (or inability to access) and use any Air New Zealand Lounges or partner lounge
Last edited by Thai-Kiwi; Oct 20, 2017 at 4:52 am