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Old Jun 10, 2014, 12:42 am
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new domestic seats

Just received the following email..

New domestic booking options
If you're having trouble reading this email, view it online here
New Domestic Options

Hello QTFLYER
We asked Kiwis what they wanted when traveling around the country, the same answers came up again and again; flexibility, affordability and choice.

Today we're very excited to announce our response to this challenge, a simple solution that will be available to book from 24 June in the form of our new domestic seats. With our new domestic seats you'll always get four simple options every time you book.

Among other things, this means you'll never have to pay for a checked bag you don't need. If you book Flexitime and your meeting runs late you'll be able to easily change to a later flight that day. And if you might need to change the day of your flight for any reason, you can, with our Flexiplus option.

Soon you'll be able to choose, and pay for, exactly what you want, not just what's left.

Air New Zealand's new domestic booking options will be available to book from 24 June 2014, for travel from 21 July 2014.

Flexitime available on domestic routes that fly more than once per day, every day. Any flight changes are subject to flight availability.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 12:42 am
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Air NZ New Domestic Seats - 4 options, bookable from 24th June 2014

So this was just announced via their website, and for those who subscribed to their e-mail newsletters.


New domestic seats
Four simple options available every time you book


Available to book from 24 June, for travel from 21 July 2014.

We asked Kiwis what they wanted when traveling around the country, the same answers came up again and again; flexibility, affordability and choice.

Our response to this challenge is a simple solution that will be available from 24 June in the form of our new domestic seats. With our new domestic seats you'll always get four simple options every time you book from 24 June, for travel from 21 July 2014. Whether it be two months or two days ahead of travel there’ll always be an option to suit your needs.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 12:54 am
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While it seems like a positive move for many, for me it means goodbye to flexible fares from my employer. As most of my travel can be pretty short notice I end up with a lot of flexibility class tickets with decent sp and apd earnings. Now I am sure it will be seat only all the way..!!
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 12:56 am
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So just the yearly re-branding on the domestic fare names?

Looks like the days of the cookie / vegie chips are numbered, they seem to be very big on pushing the free tea/coffee
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 1:03 am
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http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/new-domestic-options

Another way to dilute status points, perhaps?
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 1:18 am
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The www site and youtube clip seem to imply that there will always be a fare available in each of the 4 seating classes.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 1:26 am
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Apart from FlexiPlus letting you change your day of travel has anything actually changed other than the names of the products?
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 1:44 am
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Originally Posted by sbiddle
Apart from FlexiPlus letting you change your day of travel has anything actually changed other than the names of the products?
We don't know. The intro blurb isn't detailed enough.

Existing flexi fares can of course have date of travel changed.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 1:45 am
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Originally Posted by sbiddle
Apart from FlexiPlus letting you change your day of travel has anything actually changed other than the names of the products?
Not really, the main difference is that all fares will always be available for purchase. More like that TT system. E.g if you are booking a flight 1 day prior to travel if booked now grabaseat would not be available, you would have to purchase Flexi Plus, with the new system you will always be able to buy Seat or Seat+Bag.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 2:01 am
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The more things change, the more stays the same?

Just had a look with what AirNZ already disclosed with this "new product", compared with the current offering (http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/domestic-fares).

Across all fares:
- Now includes a "Standard Seat" selection, where-as the current Seat and Seat+Bag cost $5 extra
- Luggage allowance remained the same across the respective types
- In flight snack seemed to have been canned now (that's a negative)

And specifically for Flexitime, compared with the current SmartSaver:
"includes the flexibility of being able to change your flight to an earlier or later flight that same day of travel when available*.
*Subject to availability on the day and please be aware that for domestic routes where we operate only 2-3 flight times per day, the ability to change to an earlier flight or later flight will be reduced."

What I gather from the above are:
- Not a lot of people right now, are willing to pay the $5 extra to choose a seat ahead of time on Seat & Seat+Bag. Does not effect anyone with Gold/Elite/Koru status anyway.
- The accountants must've worked out that omitting snacks is going to save enough, and distracting everyone with "hey look, we serve free tea or coffee!" although we already have that anyways.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 2:07 am
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I guess until we see what the fare ranges are for each booking category it's hard to really see what sort of difference it will make.. But in following with the current policy of focusing solely on profit and devaluing the Airpoints program I suspect it'll be aiming to do both!
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 3:48 am
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Talking No cookies or chips ?

Originally Posted by Kamadan
The more things change, the more stays the same?

Just had a look with what AirNZ already disclosed with this "new product", compared with the current offering (http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/domestic-fares).

Across all fares:
- Now includes a "Standard Seat" selection, where-as the current Seat and Seat+Bag cost $5 extra
- Luggage allowance remained the same across the respective types
- In flight snack seemed to have been canned now (that's a negative)

Looks like we need to take an extra cookie from the KC

And specifically for Flexitime, compared with the current SmartSaver:
"includes the flexibility of being able to change your flight to an earlier or later flight that same day of travel when available*.
*Subject to availability on the day and please be aware that for domestic routes where we operate only 2-3 flight times per day, the ability to change to an earlier flight or later flight will be reduced."

What I gather from the above are:
- Not a lot of people right now, are willing to pay the $5 extra to choose a seat ahead of time on Seat & Seat+Bag. Does not effect anyone with Gold/Elite/Koru status anyway.
- The accountants must've worked out that omitting snacks is going to save enough, and distracting everyone with "hey look, we serve free tea or coffee!" although we already have that anyways.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 4:08 am
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Flexitime seems like an excuse to bump up the price of existing smart savers. Surprised free koru access wasn't chucked in to one of the more expensive options. I'm sure the cost of seat selection will be added to current grabaseat/grabaseat plus bag fares as a way to bump up revenue.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by Kamadan
The more things change, the more stays the same?

Just had a look with what AirNZ already disclosed with this "new product", compared with the current offering (http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/domestic-fares).

Across all fares:
- Now includes a "Standard Seat" selection, where-as the current Seat and Seat+Bag cost $5 extra
- Luggage allowance remained the same across the respective types
- In flight snack seemed to have been canned now (that's a negative)
...
It does also seem that the Seat and Seat+Bag fares now earn APD.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by PacificTwo
It does also seem that the Seat and Seat+Bag fares now earn APD.
You've earned APD on all fares since they changed the Airpoints earning spend in March (even if it's only $1)
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