Now Pay for exit rows - "Fly Customised"
#17
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: NZ EP
Posts: 184
I'm not comfortable with the ambiguous wording, so yes, worth looking out for developments.
The way I see it, is for that for those without status (or KC), then this brings NZ into line with most carriers overseas (and Crapstar domestically). It would appear though that you have to pay $5 for your choice of seat, even if it's out of the space+ area....that's a shocker. Not even Crapstar stoops to this level.
$75 for an exit row seat long haul, that's an absolute pis*s take!
Boo...hiss AIRNZ
Last edited by Gasfoodlodging; Nov 19, 2012 at 4:50 pm Reason: Long Haul
#18
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: NZ*G
Posts: 93
That's a terrible answer they give also. What's so wrong with a 'first-in first serve' policy?
Not mentioned in the OP, but NZ are now charging parents to use bassinet rows. I don't have children, but can appreciate how incredibly poor it is to charge for this and it certainly does not seem a very Kiwi thing to do. Do Ryan Air even have such a charge??
Not mentioned in the OP, but NZ are now charging parents to use bassinet rows. I don't have children, but can appreciate how incredibly poor it is to charge for this and it certainly does not seem a very Kiwi thing to do. Do Ryan Air even have such a charge??
#19
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: QF Gold
Posts: 1,242
The worst part is, even if as a Gold I wanted to purchase that $75 exit row, I'm probably not going to be able to, given that everyone on the plane now has access to those seats (as opposed with competing against just the G/GE/Koru flyers in the economy cabin).
#20
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wellington
Programs: QFWP (LTSG), NZ (Jade), TG ROP (Forgotten), OZ (Silver), AA (Cardboard), EK (Lowest of the Low)
Posts: 4,669
I guess not as 737 do not have bassinets, but then again why should that stop Ryan Air.
For me to NZ but this is all ancillary revenue and shows how monopoly players can work. I bet if they did not introduce this charge they would state that fares would need to increase.
For me to NZ but this is all ancillary revenue and shows how monopoly players can work. I bet if they did not introduce this charge they would state that fares would need to increase.
#23
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: NZ G, QF Bronze
Posts: 326
After Talking to Koru Call Centre...
I just got off the phone to Koru.
With a grain of salt:
1. The number of HVC seat allocations will remain the same i.e. if there are currently 7 rows of space+ on a TT A320, and they put 2 rows up for sale, then there will be a total of 9 rows of space+.
2. Everyone will have to pay for exits rows, regardless of status, unless nabbed in final 48 hours
3. Payment applies to *Gs from other airline programs
4. Existing bookings with seats already selected in exit rows (before 22 November) will get to keep those allocations without payment. Will be lost if you change booking after 22 November.
With a grain of salt:
1. The number of HVC seat allocations will remain the same i.e. if there are currently 7 rows of space+ on a TT A320, and they put 2 rows up for sale, then there will be a total of 9 rows of space+.
2. Everyone will have to pay for exits rows, regardless of status, unless nabbed in final 48 hours
3. Payment applies to *Gs from other airline programs
4. Existing bookings with seats already selected in exit rows (before 22 November) will get to keep those allocations without payment. Will be lost if you change booking after 22 November.
#24
Join Date: Sep 2010
Programs: Air NZ Gold Elite
Posts: 135
Air NZ just tinkers with policy all the time. Every week there is a new change to keep track of! How many staff are sitting around changing things!?!?
Look at all the worlds best companies. Simple policy, simple advertising, easy to understand for customers.
I am a frequent flyer... but it's starting to be overwhelming. Keeping track of rule changes. Un-necessary and poor management.
Look at all the worlds best companies. Simple policy, simple advertising, easy to understand for customers.
I am a frequent flyer... but it's starting to be overwhelming. Keeping track of rule changes. Un-necessary and poor management.
#26
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: CHC
Programs: NZ *G
Posts: 72
Amazing, very degrading and utterly disgusting. I had nothing but praise for NZ, but after this... GFYS!
Charging extra for bassinets?? So why do infants pay 10% of the fare, when they are not taking a seat and certainly not eating (not in large quantities) the "baby food" provided?
Again, GFYS!
Charging extra for bassinets?? So why do infants pay 10% of the fare, when they are not taking a seat and certainly not eating (not in large quantities) the "baby food" provided?
Again, GFYS!
#27
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: VA Silver, NZ Gold
Posts: 327
From the FAQ with added truth in brackets.
Why have you introduced paid Seat Select?
Answer:
Paid Seat Select is all about providing you with extra seating choice(but really just us with extra revenue). No existing seating entitlements are being taken away(except those we decided to forget you had).
....
Why have you introduced paid Seat Select?
Answer:
Paid Seat Select is all about providing you with extra seating choice(but really just us with extra revenue). No existing seating entitlements are being taken away(except those we decided to forget you had).
....
#28
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NZ
Posts: 731
Moan Moan moan, all you do is moan.
This is all for the good of the service NZ can offer flyers. They keep fares down by keeping the "extras" paid for, jez the way some of you go one you want everything for nothing - well toughen up. The so called HVC's (pretentious title anyway) need to get real, what do you expect for using the same airline time after time, you want freebies, you want choice of seats, well get real, this is the 21st century and consumer loyalty is expected and should not be rewarded, its time you lot hardened up and thanked Mr parton for his courageous moves to maximise NZ profit while reducing the giveaways. Now when I snap my fingers you will wake up, yes its been a dream, bad one but still a dream. If you listen closely you will hear the Little Mermaid as she flicks her tail and head s back down the list of good airlines to beat jetstar, must beat Jetstar to the bottom, oops NZ you are already there - what do you reckon smoocha and co, good moves for loyal customers or another nail and "get stuffed we don't care" for the loyal, constant, not price conscious flyers.
This is all for the good of the service NZ can offer flyers. They keep fares down by keeping the "extras" paid for, jez the way some of you go one you want everything for nothing - well toughen up. The so called HVC's (pretentious title anyway) need to get real, what do you expect for using the same airline time after time, you want freebies, you want choice of seats, well get real, this is the 21st century and consumer loyalty is expected and should not be rewarded, its time you lot hardened up and thanked Mr parton for his courageous moves to maximise NZ profit while reducing the giveaways. Now when I snap my fingers you will wake up, yes its been a dream, bad one but still a dream. If you listen closely you will hear the Little Mermaid as she flicks her tail and head s back down the list of good airlines to beat jetstar, must beat Jetstar to the bottom, oops NZ you are already there - what do you reckon smoocha and co, good moves for loyal customers or another nail and "get stuffed we don't care" for the loyal, constant, not price conscious flyers.
#29
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: New Zealand
Programs: NZ *G
Posts: 181
But seriously, charging extra for the bassinet row is pretty bloody low. What piece of pond scum thought that one up?
#30
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: CHC
Programs: NZ *G
Posts: 72
Ryan air patented charging for everything and anything, but you don't expect too much from them. Certainly they charge for "priority boarding", for flights taking off on time, for printing boarding passes and checking in (actually true) and they have talked about a "gold coin donation" for toilet use on board.
Go on NZ, there is still room to get to the bottom, although you don't seem to need any help to get there.
Go on NZ, there is still room to get to the bottom, although you don't seem to need any help to get there.